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View Poll Results: Would you like to see same-sex marriage become legal where you live?
It is already legal where I live 18 6.02%
Yes 184 61.54%
No 92 30.77%
Not sure 5 1.67%
Voters: 299. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-04-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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So now what if John whats to join Ben and Jerry in their "marriage". Not allowing him to marry them as well would be infringing on his "civil rights" I take it, according to all the pro gray marriage people?
Absolutely.

There's nothing wrong with the scenario you presented, otuside of possible tax liabilities.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:37 PM
 
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Gays could already enter in to legal contracts before this. It just wasnt called Marriage. They arent gaining any rights, rather they are only trampling on the definition and sanctity of marriage.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Then why aren't heterosexuals allowed to have civil unions? Shouldn't heterosexuals be allowed to have civil unions also?

Or for that matter, why not make ALL marriages civil unions, and those who want religious ceremonies can always have them in addition to civil marriage?
you do realize that there are Gay churches and gay friendly churches that will marry same sex partners, don't you? Same sex unions are fine as long as they are applied to everybody the same way. Bottom line, gays would still get "married" EVEN IF the States issued only civil unions. It would have to be uniform throughout all of the States however for it to work (a brand new construct in other words)

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Old 08-04-2010, 03:38 PM
 
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Soon it'll be this-
This is the pitiful level of argumentation made by people who oppose gay marriage. If a man can marry a man, eventually, a man will be able to marry a horse. Nevermind that animals can't consent.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Gays could already enter in to legal contracts before this. It just wasnt called Marriage. They arent gaining any rights, rather they are only trampling on the definition and sanctity of marriage.
A: Definitions change. Language isn't a static thing.

B: The sanctity of marriage was trampled upon rather long ago. To start complaining about it now is rather foolhardy.

C: Marriage isn't limited to just one religion.

D: Not everyone who gets married IS part of a religion.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:39 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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So now what if John whats to join Ben and Jerry in their "marriage". Not allowing him to marry them as well would be infringing on his "civil rights" I take it, according to all the pro gray marriage people?
That's poly marriage. Wait until the bisexuals want to marry a male and a female.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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Gays could already enter in to legal contracts before this. It just wasnt called Marriage. They arent gaining any rights, rather they are only trampling on the definition and sanctity of marriage.
This is a lie. Civil unions do not provide all the benefits that marriage does.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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That's poly marriage. Wait until the bisexuals want to marry a male and a female.
And what then?
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Civil Unions are not recognized by the federal government, so couples would not be able to file joint-tax returns or be eligible for tax breaks or protections the government affords to married couples.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Gays could already enter in to legal contracts before this. It just wasnt called Marriage. They arent gaining any rights, rather they are only trampling on the definition and sanctity of marriage.
This is wrong.

"Legal marriage" has several tangible financial privileges. To systematically deny these privileges to gay people because you don't like them is unconstitutional.

If you don't like that, then work to change the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.
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