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According to the bill, once the money given to the states run out, the states that received the money must continue to spend at the level that the federal government sets in this bill.
In Texas, the state legislature sets spending levels. The feds don't have that power. Rick Perry doesn't have that power. So this is really an end run around our state constitution - which is why Perry doesn't want the money.
So Doggett puts the provision in the bill to put pressure on Perry and other state congressman to override our constitution.
Here's the deal. When the money runs out from the fed, the states (your state) will have to raise their own taxes in order to keep up with federal education spending levels. So with all of the other tax increases coming down the road - I'm all in favor to stay away from that money.
Call your House Rep if you don't want that to happen. Pelosi will call them back to DC to pass this.
But if you take that money, with the condition that you must maintain current spending levels, then you are agreeing to a contract. (or in this case, Texas agreed to a contract with the Federal government).
If its against Texas's constitution, then Texas is at fault, not the Federal government. In which case they can
a. Comply
b. fail to comply and face a lawsuit
or
c. give back all the money which will cut things even worse.
Memphis - Right on your post - except the bill hasn't passed yet and Texas has not received any money for this - so there is no money to give back - we just won't receive money that the other 49 states will get...
I'll take "C" with Perry. They can't control our spending.
Memphis - Right on your post - except the bill hasn't passed yet and Texas has not received any money for this - so there is no money to give back - we just won't receive money that the other 49 states will get...
I'll take "C" with Perry. They can't control our spending.
It worked for Ford, didn't it?
Refusing education spending is going to hurt bad. But hey, its not my state. No way in hell I'm going to live there without federal education money either. I have a son.
Now, if I had no children, I'd be fine with it.
Parents are going crap a gold brick when they find out how much they get from the feds.
But if you take that money, with the condition that you must maintain current spending levels, then you are agreeing to a contract. (or in this case, Texas agreed to a contract with the Federal government).
If its against Texas's constitution, then Texas is at fault, not the Federal government. In which case they can
a. Comply
b. fail to comply and face a lawsuit
or
c. give back all the money which will cut things even worse.
Your choice.
We're not getting the money..understand ?
We're going to lose $800 million because of what Doggett did.
The stimulus money Texas took DID NOT have any Federal mandates.
Texas did turn down the stimulus that had Federal mandates ...the unemployment for part time workers. Texas also turned down the Race To the Top Fed education money.
So far Texas has turned down and said NO to any stimulus money that had Federal mandates attached.
This Texas Amendment was put in by a Texas Dem (Doggett) who knows the Texas constitution but has a grudge against Perry.
Memphis - Right on your post - except the bill hasn't passed yet and Texas has not received any money for this - so there is no money to give back - we just won't receive money that the other 49 states will get...
I'll take "C" with Perry. They can't control our spending.
It worked for Ford, didn't it?
Texas said NO to Fed money for part time workers because of Fed mandates.
Texas said NO to Race to the Top education money because of Fed mandates.
The DC folks don't like Texas saying "No thank you".
Refusing education spending is going to hurt bad. But hey, its not my state. No way in hell I'm going to live there without federal education money either. I have a son.
Now, if I had no children, I'd be fine with it.
Parents are going crap a gold brick when they find out how much they get from the feds.
Memphis1979..our education budget is not under water.
Yes we had some layoffs but it's healthy to trim the fat.
Texas education is exempt from any mandated cuts through the 2012 Texas budget.
Why do you think we are hurting ? We are not but many seem to think so.
We are not one of the states crying to Uncle Sam in DC that we'll be laying off thousands of teachers, fireman and police unless we get money.
GM, Chrysler and Ford. Who needed money and who didn't ?
Memphis1979..our education budget is not under water.
Yes we had some layoffs but it's healthy to trim the fat.
Texas education is exempt from any mandated cuts through the 2012 Texas budget.
Why do you think we are hurting ? We are not but many seem to think so.
We are not one of the states crying to Uncle Sam in DC that we'll be laying off thousands of teachers, fireman and police unless we get money.
GM, Chrysler and Ford. Who needed money and who didn't ?
I'm happy my son gets federal education money. But like I said, its your state.
We in Texas make it LOUD AND CLEAR that we don't want help from the federal government, especially that evil, Marxist, no good, Socialist Kenyan named Barak HUSSEIN Obama.
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Rib Texas all you want but we have a Governor who said NO, NO and NO to Fed money that had strings attached. We tightened our belts and did layoffs.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
Texas said NO to Fed money for part time workers because of Fed mandates.
Texas said NO to Race to the Top education money because of Fed mandates.
The DC folks don't like Texas saying "No thank you".
I have to ask ... did people here read the article linked to in the OP? It includes the following:
Led by Doggett, Democrats in Congress said they put forth the provision because of the way the state handled federal stimulus dollars last year.
Doggett says state lawmakers used $3.2 billion in federal stimulus money last year to replace state money and ended the legislative session with billions in the state's Rainy Day Fund.
That was an abuse of the intent of the federal stimulus act, Doggett said. He said his provision was intended to ensure state officials don't divert education dollars to other parts of the budget if they get more federal aid.
Looks like Texas DID take federal money, and did whatever the hell they wanted to with it. So now the feds are saying, you want more money, it's on our terms, not yours.
That Texas may lose $800 million after taking $3.2 billion shouldn't make anyone lose any sleep.
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