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Old 08-10-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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According to Gallup, young people between the age of 18 to 29 approve of "Obamacare" 57% to 40% the next group 30 to 49 approve 49% to 43%. Of course these two groups are less likely to need costly healthcare so by approving of the redistribution of their wealth to those older and more likely to use more expensive health services, these two age groups have clearly swallowed the socialist hook.

Non-Old People Love Obamacare | The New Republic

Of course the entitlement generation, those 65% and older have more sense. They disapprove of "Obamacare" by a whooping 60%! Good thing for them, they won't have to participate, getting Medicare and all.
What is wrong with them? we are letting communist teachers from the NEA shape their young minds full of mush.

It is my fondest hope they outgrow the insanity of youth.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: New York City
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"What's Wrong With Our Socialist Youth?" That's a "When did you stop beating your wife" type of question, i.e., it presupposes the answer.

Young people are more supportive of healthcare because of increased job mobility. We know that we are likely to change jobs more than earlier generations and it's much more difficult if you have to worry about insurance. I think there is a strong Libertarian argument to be made for healthcare along these lines as well. How many entrepreneurs are prevented from starting a small business because they have a child with a comparatively minor illness like asthma? Liberty means the freedom to make your own choices, yet millions of Americans are prevented from moving, or getting divorced, or simply taking a different job all because of health insurance. Where is the freedom in that?

I also think this explains why the strongest opponents of healthcare reform are not the rich but the working classes. Many working class people have spent their lives doing jobs that they hate not for the money but for the benefits. By removing health insurance from a particular job, we're braking that social contract. That's why people are so angry.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Every generation thinks they're "the first ones to....." - just like all the previous ones.

Guess what - 10 years from now the next generation will be claiming the same thing!

That dead horse isn't magically coming back to life. Sorry.
Oh, I respectfully disagree with that. I've seen slow but real progress over the last few generations. Race relations, respect for those who are different, etc. The greatest generation was great, but they had a lot of bad ideas as well. The boomers, to our credit, took the next step. But we had to fight the older generation and about half of our generation to do it. So I think this generation is in a position to take a quantum leap in social issues and maybe even economic ones. They are far more unified that we were and the labels we get hung up on are meaningless to them.

Trying to pigeon-hole them as out-of-touch socialists is kind of like the old man yelling at those damn kids to get off his yard!
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Reminds of the saying "As long is democracy is alive socialism will never die" penned from the great forum icon Reid_G.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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"What's Wrong With Our Socialist Youth?" That's a "When did you stop beating your wife" type of question, i.e., it presupposes the answer.

Young people are more supportive of healthcare because of increased job mobility. We know that we are likely to change jobs more than earlier generations and it's much more difficult if you have to worry about insurance. I think there is a strong Libertarian argument to be made for healthcare along these lines as well. How many entrepreneurs are prevented from starting a small business because they have a child with a comparatively minor illness like asthma? Liberty means the freedom to make your own choices, yet millions of Americans are prevented from moving, or getting divorced, or simply taking a different job all because of health insurance. Where is the freedom in that?

I also think this explains why the strongest opponents of healthcare reform are not the rich but the working classes. Many working class people have spent their lives doing jobs that they hate not for the money but for the benefits. By removing health insurance from a particular job, we're braking that social contract. That's why people are so angry.
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Oh, I respectfully disagree with that. I've seen slow but real progress over the last few generations. Race relations, respect for those who are different, etc. The greatest generation was great, but they had a lot of bad ideas as well. The boomers, to our credit, took the next step. But we had to fight the older generation and about half of our generation to do it. So I think this generation is in a position to take a quantum leap in social issues and maybe even economic ones. They are far more unified that we were and the labels we get hung up on are meaningless to them.

Trying to pigeon-hole them as out-of-touch socialists is kind of like the old man yelling at those damn kids to get off his yard!
These are the two best repsonses I've read thus far. Kudos!
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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Clearly you have a very different view of the vast majority of gen y'ers. Everyone I know has worked for the better part of a decade, since mid-high school, my self included. But that doesn't change their views on repsonsibilty and career, family and fun as it pertains to what I've written previously, and outlined in the article. That article seems very universal to me.
The artical is mainly opinion and speculation. It seems to glorify the fact that our generation thinks we know better than people who have been there before. You said it did change there values. You said i was thinking of responsibility, work, play in a traditional sense so i didn't understand. so what is the new non traditional ways? And honestly are generation in pretty useless. Another thing about that article you cant say that these changes are great until you see the long term affect. Maybe in 50 years we can say how much positive change we made.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The artical is mainly opinion and speculation.
That seems to be their standard. They're not much for facts; facts get in the way of their beliefs and feelings.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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Brainwashed by schools and teachers whose curriculum fail to address the dangers of Communism throught history and how a Representative Republic is not a Social Democracy. Social re-engineering aimed at the very young has long been a plan of the Socialists in the United States of America. They know not what they do not know and thus follow blindly like sheep.
Divide and conquore . Wwho was it that said 'give me the minds of the children and I will dictate their future ?

The parents gave up their kids for assets . Maybe not so much knowingly but still allowed them to be brainwashed .
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Trigga City, FL
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Ignorance has a lot to say. I wouldn't say that the majority of our youth is socialist, just uninformed. The more technology we get, the less we actually know. As odd as that seems, its actually pretty true.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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We are to nurtured. What ever happened to the dad that says "Ill give you something to cry about"
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