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View Poll Results: Do you think America is the land of the free?
Yes, it is the land of the free 22 40.74%
No, it is not the land of the free 15 27.78%
No, it is not but I have hope that it will be one day. 17 31.48%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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In your opinion and whatever your political or religious beliefs, is America still or was it ever the land of the free? If not, could it ever achieve the ideal as espoused in the Declaration of Independence.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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With bigger gov comes less freedom

You cant have bigger gov and more freedom
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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I voted yes.

I own land in Tela, Honduras and pay money to the main street gang and money to the local law enforcement.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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No, and it can't ever achieve the ideals as espoused in the declaration of independence. Here is why... selfishness and the drive for power also comes naturally to people and is usually more effective. It is more difficult to fight emotions than to fight logic, which plays against freedoms.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I can't freely grow a plant that does no harm to me physically, count that with countless other personal freedoms.

The Index of Economic Freedom, published by The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal since 1995, finds that the United States is letting Big Brother grow obese as other countries get lean and fit. Chile, Australia and Iceland improved enough to leave the U.S. in a tie with Switzerland for 12th place.

Read more: USA No Longer Freest Country - Business Opportunities Weblog
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Some more interesting reads.

A comparison of personal freedoms and liberties in developed nations@Everything2.com
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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I can't freely grow a plant that does no harm to me physically, count that with countless other personal freedoms.

The Index of Economic Freedom, published by The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal since 1995, finds that the United States is letting Big Brother grow obese as other countries get lean and fit. Chile, Australia and Iceland improved enough to leave the U.S. in a tie with Switzerland for 12th place.

Read more: USA No Longer Freest Country - Business Opportunities Weblog
I am really asking about YOUR own personal feelings and not how some organization ranks the country according to some arbitrary economic statistics.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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It's a 'plutonomy', just as CitiGroup said it is.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I am really asking about YOUR own personal feelings and not how some organization ranks the country according to some arbitrary economic statistics.
My thoughts mirror what I just posted in the links.

America hasn't been for a long time, and continues not to be the freest country in the world, and they are sliding down the scale quickly.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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In your opinion and whatever your political or religious beliefs, is America still or was it ever the land of the free? If not, could it ever achieve the ideal as espoused in the Declaration of Independence.

It strived but never made it . It is about to be the land of the has beens .
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