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Old 08-19-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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You are so right. We will have to wait and see if this early withdrawl is going to hold. I fear Iran will step in when it feels ready. God bless our troops and I hope they have safe passage home.
They were there for seven years - what would you consider a 'timely' withdrawal?

Thanks OP for posting this - it was wonderful being able to watch the convoy move into Kuwait. And kudos to NBC for the live broadcast.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Why do you refer to Iraq as an "abominable mistake?" Are you incapable of understanding the positive ramifications of a democratic nation in the Middle East? Are you incapable of understanding that whatever form of democratically elected government takes root, it will be immensely better than the oppressive, murderous dictatorship of Saddam Hussein?

Democrats have never been known for their extraordinary foresight. You seem to perpetuate this philosophy.
I recall that there was once a democratically elected government in Iran too. Somehow, the U.S. didn't have the same 'understanding' of the value of the 'positive ramifications' of that situation and instead preferred to install a despotic monarch in its place. Look how well that turned out.
I also seem to recall that it was a Republican administration that 'gave' us Saddam Hussein in the first place. Extraordinary foresight indeed.

Our country really should stay out of the 'nation-building' business. We are so not good at it.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:42 AM
 
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I recall that there was once a democratically elected government in Iran too. Somehow, the U.S. didn't have the same 'understanding' of the value of the 'positive ramifications' of that situation and instead preferred to install a despotic monarch in its place. Look how well that turned out.
I also seem to recall that it was a Republican administration that 'gave' us Saddam Hussein in the first place. Extraordinary foresight indeed.

Our country really should stay out of the 'nation-building' business. We are so not good at it.
Interesting how historical context is absent from your rant. If you insist on being backwards-looking, at least put it in context. When you get caught up on your history, come back and lets debate this. Because as of now, all you're offering is a 1:1 comparison that truly has no historical basis for that comparison.

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Old 08-19-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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Why do you refer to Iraq as an "abominable mistake?" Are you incapable of understanding the positive ramifications of a democratic nation in the Middle East? Are you incapable of understanding that whatever form of democratically elected government takes root, it will be immensely better than the oppressive, murderous dictatorship of Saddam Hussein?

Democrats have never been known for their extraordinary foresight. You seem to perpetuate this philosophy.
Democracy at what cost?

COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War

Are you saying the cost of this war that Bush lied about to start was in the Republicans foresight?

Anyone care to remember why this war was started?
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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Democracy at what cost?

COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War

Are you saying the cost of this war that Bush lied about to start was in the Republicans foresight?

Anyone care to remember why this war was started?
First of all, tell us why you think this war started. Then we'll go from there.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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Interesting how historical context is absent from your rant. If you insist on being backwards-looking, at least get put it in context. When you get caught up on your history, come back and lets debate this. Because as of now, all you're offering is a 1:1 comparison that truly has no historical basis for that comparison.
Interesting that you would consider my response to your rather condescending post a 'rant.' Touched a bit of a nerve, I'm guessing.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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Interesting that you would consider my response to your rather condescending post a 'rant.' Touched a bit of a nerve, I'm guessing.
Nope, no nerves touched here. I simply get tired of seeing people on this forum offer up historical events as proof that the United States is a foreign policy failure, when most of the time the people offering up those events haven't the slightest clue as to why those events happened in the first place. It's everyone's duty to see to it that backwards-looking opportunists get it right.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Regardless of your stance on the war or politics in general, how can anyone not feel emotional at the homecoming of our troops? They are our fellow Americans who risked life and limb on behalf of our country. It is so heartwarming to see families reunited, especially the children welcoming their moms and dads.

Is our country so divided that we can’t even unite on this joyous occasion? I don’t have any family or friends returning, but I can still rejoice for others. Yes, 50,000 are remaining in Iraq. However, hundreds of thousands have left, many after having served multiple tours of duty. I may not have agreed with the war, but these brave soldiers deserve our respect, as well as the 4,400 who made the ultimate sacrifice. How sad that partisan wrangling can’t even be postponed long enough to simply tell those returning, “Welcome Home!”
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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When I started reading this thread, I was overcome by such a sense of pride and compassion for our service men and women. Of course,the more I read, the more I see many are trying to turn this great event into some sort of Obama-bashing political debate.......some people suck the warmth out of EVERYTHING!
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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Let's see for how long...
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