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It is being built on private private property. If it offends you so greatly, why not start a fund to buy the property it is being built on?
t may be built on private property, but it will be another non-tax paying religious entity of no value to taxpayers. this country already has enough non-tax paying churches. we don't need another religion coming in here building its structures left and tight. when they agree to pay their own way and recompensate the taxpayers, that would be a different story.
Close enough that the building itself was severely damaged in the attack.
The memorial takes up a good part of a city block and we now have to increase the radius to buildings hit by plane parts 2 blocks away? Most of the people didn't even know that was the case when they started discussing the mosque but now it becomes the excuse.
The memorial takes up a good part of a city block and we now have to increase the radius to buildings hit by plane parts 2 blocks away? Most of the people didn't even know that was the case when they started discussing the mosque but now it becomes the excuse.
It doesn't have to be an excuse. The location is deliberately provocative with or without the building itself having been damaged. That much should be clear by now. The people building this place have implicated themselves by deliberately exploiting the symbolism of the site, so there are no excuses needed.
Allow me to spell it out for you. Will only take a moment. You have my first post on this and got a reaction from a few people saying how wrong it was of me to say that. Now someone read too much into it as well and started using analogize.
My point is there are many die hard liberals who are condeming anyone who says anything about this mosque or whatever you want to call it being built near time square and use what proximity you want to if you need to justify it (you not meaning you directly, but those who are trying to justify it) and when we speak out about it, we are being told we are violating their fist amendment rights.
My point is why are not my first amendment rights just as protected? Why would my statement be considered "bad" when I have my first amendment rights.
Your first amendment rights are protected. You're allowed to condemn the mosque. Just as much as liberals are allowed to condemn you for doing so.
It doesn't have to be an excuse. The location is deliberately provocative with or without the building itself having been damaged. That much should be clear by now. The people building this place have implicated themselves by deliberately exploiting the symbolism of the site, so there are no excuses needed.
The idea that it's deliberately provocative is only "clear" to those who oppose the mosque. To others, including family members of people killed at the World Trade Center, it represents an opportunity to bring people together.
You'll forgive me if I seriously doubt that. Especially considering that new mosques being built as far away as other STATES are still being protested. Noplace inside the borders of the U.S. seems to be good enough for you people.
By "you people" do you mean the almost 70% of New Yorkers and the 62% of Americans who do not want a mosque this close to Ground Zero? We are not talking about any other mosques, we are talking about this particular mosque. If there is any protesting of any other mosques occurring I am neither aware of it nor do I condone it.
That being said, it is simply stupid to disregard the role that mosques have played in the radicalization of many of Islam's adherents, so if people are protesting mosques, it is not completely unreasonable.
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Again, read Heston's speech, and read it for comprehension. Guns/Planes, Manhattan/Littleton, Second Amendment/First Amendment. See if you can grock his meaning and then come back and tell me why he was right then but we are wrong now. For the record, I'm not holding my breath.
What does the Constitution have to do with the Ground Zero Mosque?
By "you people" do you mean the almost 70% of New Yorkers and the 62% of Americans who do not want a mosque this close to Ground Zero? We are not talking about any other mosques, we are talking about this particular mosque. If there is any protesting of any other mosques occurring I am neither aware of it nor do I condone it.
That being said, it is simply stupid to disregard the role that mosques have played in the radicalization of many of Islam's adherents, so if people are protesting mosques, it is not completely unreasonable.
What does the Constitution have to do with the Ground Zero Mosque?
And what about the fact that there's already a mosque about 4 blocks from ground zero?
That was there before the 9/11 attacks?
And the fact that Cordoba House was serving as spillover from from that mosque that's pretty much as close as the Masjid Manhattan mosque long before any undeserving controversy hit the Cordova House?
The idea that it's deliberately provocative is only "clear" to those who oppose the mosque. To others, including family members of people killed at the World Trade Center, it represents an opportunity to bring people together.
It represents an opportunity to bring people together to those who are blind to the obvious fact that it has not and will not do so. And after that has become clear to the group building it, they have pressed on even as they have been offered a compromise. If they really wanted to bring people together, they'd accept that compromise instead of continuing to rub salt in the wounds opened up by their site selection. But compromise and reconciliation is obviously not their aim.
And don't try the "families of lost loved ones have unassailable moral authority" angle either, because there are plenty of families who have expressed their opposition.
Your first amendment rights are protected. You're allowed to condemn the mosque. Just as much as liberals are allowed to condemn you for doing so.
Goes both ways.
Well, that is exactly my point.
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