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in looking back 62 years, they derailed a nation.
their intent was equality, social justice and peace.
none of it happened.
their main gift to us is distrust, self doubt and lots of cowardice.
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Hippies protested at the 1968 DNC and ripped the Democratic party apart, plus Nixon appealed to the anti-hippie "silent majority" and promised to bring about stability and to stop rampant crime and drug use that flourished in the 60s. Of course it had more to do with the aforementioned Democratic party ripping themselves apart than anything Nixon could do.
The party had a bunch of A-Hole candidates, had nothing to do with hippies.
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They are not the only ones. It is amazing how much cocaine, heroin, and pot was confiscated from the same conscripts over the course of a few years in Vietnam.
Really? HOW much? Have anything factual, actual amounts and proof it was from conscripts or are you just blowing smoke?
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The hippie movement was part of a larger revolutionary attitude that permeated the 60s and part of the 70s. Hippies moved right into left wing terrorist organizations in the late 60s and early 70s. And since everyone seems to be putting all of the good of the era on the hippie movement, I have every right to pin all the bad on the hippies as well.
Thank You for that steaming load of utter BS!
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Nothing changes the fact that hippies started as predominately white, wealthy upper class college kids with nothing better to do with their lives. It was the youth identity of the era, and eventually the hippies grew up, those that didn't called the others sellouts.
Where are your talking points coming frfom? Rush? You certainly appear to have little/no first hand knowledge of the era.
We can also thank hippies for Richard Nixon's election, the DEA, and the rapid spread of HIV/AIDS.
I would say that each of those was attributable more to the braindead ideas of reactionaries (many of whom would go on to become the neocons who have done so much for us lately) in their inability to grapple with the superior arguments of the left of the time, be they hippies or not. These assorted neanderthals were sitting on a major fault line of ever-expanding pressure that they in their social obduracy had helped to create, and were caught unprepared when it suddenly shifted. This resulted in a lot of really dumb ideas on their part.
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They did not appreciate hippies pulling the rug out from under our troops in Vietnam and wrenching support for our troops away from the American public either.
You actually have folks like Nixon and Westmoreland to thank for that. When you implement unsupportable plans, you don't get that much support.
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Even more amazing is that people here are trying to glorify the hippie movement and trying to cover up the bad things that went on during those years (Altamont anyone?).
Altamont? It appears that even you don't take you seriously.
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Nor does anyone seem to remember all the militant left wing domestic terrorists running around during those years and into the 70s.
I think a lot of people do remember that and thought it was a very bad idea at the time. I imagine most right-wingers would have thought that lynchings and Ku Klux Klansmen running around the countryside terrorizing people were very bad ideas at the time as well.
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Even more amazing is that people here are trying to glorify the hippie movement and trying to cover up the bad things that went on during those years (Altamont anyone?). Nor does anyone seem to remember all the militant left wing domestic terrorists running around during those years and into the 70s.
If you did a little research you'd know of the Hells Angels connection to the violence at Altamnont and the fact the Angels if anything were ultra right wing domestic terrorists.
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in looking back 62 years, they derailed a nation.
their intent was equality, social justice and peace.
none of it happened.
their main gift to us is distrust, self doubt and lots of cowardice.
Distrust?
The lying scumbags like Nixon, Westmoreland, et al, plus charming events like Kent State are what inspired the mistrust of a generation, not anything to do with a little sex, drugs, and Rock 'N Roll.
So, in your opinion, a "disciplined" society never questions authority? To be "Patriotic" means to blindly approve of whatever your country does?
What a crock of spin! Being "Patriotic" means that one has had the education and learned the foundation of this country, understands the Constitution and how it came about, and knows something about the basics of life and what it takes to sustain a healthy society AND GUARDS SAME WITH ONE's LIFE, IF NECESSARY.
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I thought the 50s (the time when hippies were growing up) was the golden age of moms at home in the kitchen (mine was). Now you have them all working and "not taking care of this generation." Which is it??
Again, crock of spin...did you not learn to assimilate what you read? I can tell you the exact class of kids that entered the Junior/Senior High School I attended that were totally out of control. That year the 7th grade came in and were the most disrespectful, wild and nasty bunch of kids I ever had the displeasure of encountering and it never got better. It was this group that were born and raised toward the end of the second WW that were the hippy generation of the early '60's. It was NOT the kids that were born and raised by the Depression era parents that still had our original understanding of American and what our Founding Fathers created for us.
The lying scumbags like Nixon, Westmoreland, et al, plus charming events like Kent State are what inspired the mistrust of a generation, not anything to do with a little sex, drugs, and Rock 'N Roll.
Don't forget LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin crowd.
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