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Old 08-26-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: North America
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While we would all love the recession to be over, it isn't. And while we would love (well, at least some of us) to see the stimulus money have a real and lasting effect on everything it touches, it doesn't.

FACT CHECK: Stimulus assessments overly optimistic

FACT CHECK: Stimulus assessments overly optimistic | Political Headlines | Comcast.net (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20100826/US.Fact.Check.Stimulus/ - broken link)

The Obama administration claimed this week that $100 billion invested in innovative technologies under the economic stimulus law is "transforming the American economy" by putting the nation on track for technological breakthroughs in health care, energy and transportation.

But an examination of details in the 50-page report unveiled Tuesday by Vice President Joe Biden reveals something a bit different: a collection of rosy projections that ignore many of the challenges, pitfalls and economic realities in all those areas.

A look at how the administration's claims compare to the facts:
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Old 08-26-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You can't have planned economies in a republic/democratic government. The resulting bills are overloaded with inefficiencies based on conflicting desires and outcomes. Either you have to go full fledged central economy like Russia or China, or have a more laissez-faire system. This course will result in forcing us to deviate into one of these two different roads.
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Old 08-26-2010, 01:20 PM
 
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You can't have planned economies in a republic/democratic government. The resulting bills are overloaded with inefficiencies based on conflicting desires and outcomes. Either you have to go full fledged central economy like Russia or China, or have a more laissez-faire system. This course will result in forcing us to deviate into one of these two different roads.

One recent positive from stimulus money is the 500 teachers put back to work in Broward County, FL. There are positives, but in the big picture, no so much.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:03 PM
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One recent positive from stimulus money is the 500 teachers put back to work in Broward County, FL. There are positives, but in the big picture, no so much.
From a stimulus standpoint, teachers' jobs are among the least "stimulative". A big chunk of the cash needed to employ a teacher goes to exorbitant retirement benefits.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:12 PM
 
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While we would all love the recession to be over, it isn't. And while we would love (well, at least some of us) to see the stimulus money have a real and lasting effect on everything it touches, it doesn't.

FACT CHECK: Stimulus assessments overly optimistic

FACT CHECK: Stimulus assessments overly optimistic | Political Headlines | Comcast.net (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20100826/US.Fact.Check.Stimulus/ - broken link)

The Obama administration claimed this week that $100 billion invested in innovative technologies under the economic stimulus law is "transforming the American economy" by putting the nation on track for technological breakthroughs in health care, energy and transportation.

But an examination of details in the 50-page report unveiled Tuesday by Vice President Joe Biden reveals something a bit different: a collection of rosy projections that ignore many of the challenges, pitfalls and economic realities in all those areas.

A look at how the administration's claims compare to the facts:
3.3 milion jobs have been saved thanks to the stimulus according to CBO.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:24 PM
 
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3.3 milion jobs have been saved thanks to the stimulus according to CBO.
You know what they say about the CBO? Junk in, junk out. CBO only works with the data they are given
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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But they did transform the American economy..

Healthcare...we got Obamacare now..mandated min policies or face the wrath of a "tax"
Energy.....no more deep water drilling
Transportation....we took over a bankrupt car mfg and bailed out its union and now our President gets to pick and choose who gets to play CEO for Government Motors
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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3.3 milion jobs have been saved thanks to the stimulus according to CBO.
And I'm having dinner with Tiger's ex tonight.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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One recent positive from stimulus money is the 500 teachers put back to work in Broward County, FL. There are positives, but in the big picture, no so much.
Actually a bill was recently signed that put thousand of teachers and state workers back to work around the country.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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and i'm having dinner with tiger's ex tonight.
^ lol

Make sure you wear a rubber dude.
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