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It shifted McCains way after the 3rd {R} debate, in a very calm and soothing voice McCain pulled at the heart strings of the neo cons. Telling them how important the Iraq mission was and we were not going to cut and run but stay the course until victory. After that debate McCain won NH and money started flooding into his broke coffer, and plus it was his turn.
Romney and Huckabee were just as bad. But their were plenty of better candidates like Fred Thompson and Tom Tancredo. Even Guiliani was at least honest about the fact that he was a liberal unlike McCain, Romney, and Huckabee.
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Originally Posted by Voyageur
Because Republicans nominate Presidential candidates as follows:
a) The incumbent GOP President, if there is one seeking the nomination
Examples: 2004, 1992, 1984, 1976, 1972
If there is no such candidate, then
b) A candidate who previously ran for President but finished second either in the nomination race or the general election
Examples: 2008, 1996, 1988, 1980, 1968
If there is no such candidate, then
c) Someone around whom the GOP establishment coalesces
Example: 2000
In 2008, there was no a and John McCain was the only b. So they GOP nominated him. It's an established pattern over four decades.
a lot of misinformation and total bravo sierra in the posts in this thread. thompson would have been an excellent choice, but he got in the race late and with NO energy behind his campaign. tancredo was viewed by many as too extreme, and gulliani was too liberal and had too much baggage. so basically it came down to mccain, romney, and huckabee, and with romney and huckabee splitting the conservative vote, mccain took the rest and mopped the floor. had romney or huckabee not been in the race, it is very possible that mccain would not have gotten the republican nomination.
I have wondered this myself. I don't know who put the fix in, but it seemed as if one moment, there were several candidates that I liked, but the next moment they were all dropping out left and right, and McCain was the guy. I assume the RNC decided that McCain had paid his dues and that it was his turn.
Originally posted by Voyageur
Because Republicans nominate Presidential candidates as follows:
a) The incumbent GOP President, if there is one seeking the nomination
Examples: 2004, 1992, 1984, 1976, 1972
If there is no such candidate, then
b) A candidate who previously ran for President but finished second either in the nomination race or the general election
Examples: 2008, 1996, 1988, 1980, 1968
If there is no such candidate, then
c) Someone around whom the GOP establishment coalesces
Example: 2000
In 2008, there was no a and John McCain was the only b. So they GOP nominated him. It's an established pattern over four decades.
Exactly. McCain was nominated because it was his turn in line. That's the way Republicans are always nominated.
I will offer this opinion. It was not so much McCain. It was when they put Palin on the ticket that I was convinced they intended to loose. And it was a brilliant move. Only time would/will fix the mess we were in. Bail then blame. Not righteous, but brilliant.
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Romney and Huckabee were just as bad. But their were plenty of better candidates like Fred Thompson and Tom Tancredo. Even Guiliani was at least honest about the fact that he was a liberal unlike McCain, Romney, and Huckabee.
Republicans usually pick the "next in line" candidate. Sometimes that results in really bad picks such as Bob Dole, Ford and McCain. My guessing is that they will choose Romney in 2012 and I really don't see him winning either. If he does it will only be by default because the economy is really FUBAR'd or because Obama got caught in a scandal of some kind.
The Republicans (as many others) saw the economic problems coming. They did not want to hold the presidency during this time. It's much easier to sit aside and criticize everything Obama does. The Republicans don't have any solutions, but plenty of criticism. The Republicans knew that whoever would be president would have a tough time.
I will offer this opinion. It was not so much McCain. It was when they put Palin on the ticket that I was convinced they intended to loose. And it was a brilliant move. Only time would/will fix the mess we were in. Bail then blame. Not righteous, but brilliant.
She was the only good thing on the ticket. She actually got out and campaigned. Even then she wasn't enough to get me to vote for McCain. I was going to write in Fred Thompson, but I was afraid if I had a write in my vote wouldn't count in the House race which was going to be close.
And they won in convincing fashion because of it. Whoops. My bad. Not how it went down.
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