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Old 08-28-2010, 02:46 AM
 
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YouTube - "Ground Zero Mosque" - Ron Paul vs. Sanjay Gupta (CNN - 8/23/10)

And another statement:

Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque! | Ron Paul .com

Quotes: In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.


They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers from in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.

The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.
The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:00 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Careful Ron, you're starting to make too much sense. Your constituents won't like that.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:28 AM
 
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Gee. If only the new mosque was for women-only Islamists.

Where are the Liberals when you need them?
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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I agree with Ron that both wars were under false pretenses and are just resource wars, however I think he downplays the threat that radical Islam inside the US can bring. Most Muslims here may be peaceful, but there are radicals connected to political Islam that are extremists. Look at England how it has become a breeding ground for radical Islam, complete with the infiltration of Sharia law. The real war is at home, not in the Middle East
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I agree with Ron that both wars were under false pretenses and are just resource wars, however I think he downplays the threat that radical Islam inside the US can bring. Most Muslims here may be peaceful, but there are radicals connected to political Islam that are extremists. Look at England how it has become a breeding ground for radical Islam, complete with the infiltration of Sharia law. The real war is at home, not in the Middle East
All the more reason to demand the continuation of a full and dedicated commitment to secular government at all levels.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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Newt Gingrich has done the right thing and has reset our focus on the national security debate. I would love for a leader to emerge that would stay the course with this line of thinking and action.

Islam regards lies, violence and threats of violence as legitimate means of gaining political ends. The only capacity Islam respects in an "unbeliever" is the capacity to use diplomacy or military force successfully against it. Their inability to reform is due to our appeasement and we need to change that. Appeasing the Islamic militants in America is only making it harder for the more tolerant Muslims to emerge. We cannot continue to encourage their victimhood. All that does is feed the mind of the suicide bomber. Our political correctness movement has done nothing but produce a climate where it is easy for the Muslims to lie about the true nature of Islam and get away with it. I'm tired of it.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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I agree with Ron that both wars were under false pretenses and are just resource wars, however I think he downplays the threat that radical Islam inside the US can bring. Most Muslims here may be peaceful, but there are radicals connected to political Islam that are extremists. Look at England how it has become a breeding ground for radical Islam, complete with the infiltration of Sharia law. The real war is at home, not in the Middle East

England is E Coli.

Islam is anthrax.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Islam regards lies, violence and threats of violence as legitimate means of gaining political ends. The only capacity Islam respects in an "unbeliever" is the capacity to use diplomacy or military force successfully against it. Their inability to reform is due to our appeasement and we need to change that.
How many actual Muslims have you known in your life?

BTW, when it comes to religion, there is no "we" and "they". Seven million Muslims are part of "we". If you don't get that point, you are a traitor.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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I agree with Ron that both wars were under false pretenses and are just resource wars, however I think he downplays the threat that radical Islam inside the US can bring. Most Muslims here may be peaceful, but there are radicals connected to political Islam that are extremists. Look at England how it has become a breeding ground for radical Islam, complete with the infiltration of Sharia law. The real war is at home, not in the Middle East
The mistake and the reason we cannot help Iraq and Afghanistan is that we didn't do what we did for Japan.

Douglas MacArthur, after WWII, stayed in Tokyo to impose a new constitution. It removed the power of the Emperor and gave the people an American-style of democracy in which they were given power over the government through their constitution.

Article One of the Afghan constitution says, "Afghanistan is an Islamic Republic, independent, unitary and indivisible state." In Afghanistan, no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam.
-Article 3, constitution of Afghanistan

http://www.afghan-web.com/politics/current_constitution.html#chapterone

Article Two of the Iraq constitution says,
"Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation."No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established. - Article 2, A, constitution of Iraq
Full Text of Iraqi Constitution - washingtonpost.com

Islamic law supersedes any laws in the constitution that are not Sharia law-compliant. Any American support of this horrible and barbaric system is total folly.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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The mistake and the reason we cannot help Iraq and Afghanistan is that we didn't do what we did for Japan.
ha!

The Japanese believed their emperor was divine. That makes Islam seem rather sane by comparison.
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