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Old 08-29-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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Still can't figure out who in the heck you're talking about. President Obama is center/right in his governance.

I wish we could elect a left-winger for a change.

If you believe that Obama is a centrist, you are standing so far left of the political spectrum that you may fall off the edge of the world.

Obama is the most far left radical to ever occupy the oval office. You will see a centrist in 2012, which may give you a better frame of reference. I would agree that Clinton was a centrist and perhaps Bush II was left of him.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Glenn Beck didnt start the tea parties..
You don't need to start the Tea Party to become the hero of the new Tea Partiers. Where exactly did I say he started it? Epic fail.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Tea Party Backers: "Take Our Country Back"...From Who Exactly?

I think it was Hilary Clinton said some about taking back their country. She also said she was a progressive of the 20th century kind.

So exactly, sounds like it would be taking our country back from the progressive socialists.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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If you believe that Obama is a centrist, you are standing so far left of the political spectrum that you may fall off the edge of the world.

Obama is the most far left radical to ever occupy the oval office. You will see a centrist in 2012, which may give you a better frame of reference. I would agree that Clinton was a centrist and perhaps Bush II was left of him.
As I said before, it depends on where you stand to observe.

Only a frothing right-wing lunatic would believe that Obama is anything but a centrist.

Had he been a left-wing radical he wouldn't have spent so much time compromising with the republicans. He would have taken the ball he was given as a mandate and run with it.

If he hadn't wimped out we might have real UHC with a public option. At the very least he should have got legislation written to require doctors and hospitals to publish their rates for various procedures so that comparison shopping would be possible.

That said, I will vote for him again in 2012 so that hopefully he can fininsh the job without having to fear for his re-election.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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Why isn't obvious?

From the 14th amendment; the Civil Rights Act; science, reason and rationality; the policies of Theodore, Franklin & LBJ; and any and everyone who opposes their goal of plunging the world into the Dark Ages.

Feudalism, 21st century style, baby!!!
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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Yet it was Glenn Beck, the hero of Tea Partiers that supported the bail-outs! Wake up, the Tea Party has been hijacked by the crazy neo-cons.
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You don't need to start the Tea Party to become the hero of the new Tea Partiers. Where exactly did I say he started it? Epic fail.
No but first Beck has admitted he was wrong about the bailouts, and second, he isnt the "hero" of the partiers.. He just helps organize them. The Tea partiers have no "hero" but you wont know this I guess, hatred is blinding to facts..
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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No but first Beck has admitted he was wrong about the bailouts, and second, he isnt the "hero" of the partiers.. He just helps organize them. The Tea partiers have no "hero" but you wont know this I guess, hatred is blinding to facts..
You don't see what was behind his change of mind?
Bush was president, Beck on CNN and for the bail-outs.
Beck changes the channel and Obama is president and suddenly Beck is against the bail-outs? I thought you were smart enough to see through this.
Beck will say anything his brainwashed followers want to hear.

Where is his integrity?
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
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If an election is held and your candidate loses then does it make sense for you to wish that the "country" be retrieved, so to speak, from...I don't know exactly.

You lost the election; is the winning side now the enemy from whom you wish to extract ownership of the nation?

I don't get it.

By the way, where were these rallies during the Bush Administration.

Was George W. Bush a champion of liberty?
From who?
From our own government; our government now makes laws to lift itself up above the common citizen and enables itself to rule over us as if they are royalty. It, our government, sees itself as rulers of the citizens instead of citizens themselves.
As far as your comment about Bush
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where were these rallies during the Bush Administration.
it seems as if there is an implication to this comment. In my opinion we (Tea Party protestors) as citizens were full of an overbearing government when Bush was in office and now that Obama seems to completely disregard the majority of the USA citizens this has push many people over the top. It would have been any president who continued to ignored the people not just Obama.

I'm tired of having my rights chipped away for a smaller group.
Obama isn't doing anything to stop an over controlling government, he and his administration are making it worse.
I know I sound like a freak but read up on the revolution and what preceded it.
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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You don't see what was behind his change of mind?
Bush was president, Beck on CNN and for the bail-outs.
Beck changes the channel and Obama is president and suddenly Beck is against the bail-outs? I thought you were smart enough to see through this.
Beck will say anything his brainwashed followers want to hear.

Where is his integrity?
Pam, the fact that you assume certain individuals have any notion of integrity in the 1st place is a major stretch in and of itself.

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Lets see: failure to acknowledge reality; illogically believing greater taxes == greater deficits; believes he's a better investigative reporter than Frontline which actually interviews people that were involved in the event itslef; adds up to ZERO credibility but 100% desperation for attention and approval.
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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Did you suggest I like Beck? God no. Here is a thread I made weeks ago.

How is Glenn Beck not a hypocrite?
The thread is just as ridiculous now as it was then..
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You don't see what was behind his change of mind?
Bush was president, Beck on CNN and for the bail-outs.
Beck changes the channel and Obama is president and suddenly Beck is against the bail-outs? I thought you were smart enough to see through this.
Beck will say anything his brainwashed followers want to hear.

Where is his integrity?
I hate to be the one to tell you but Obama had and continues to have NOTHING to do with the bailouts. ALL of the money was spent PRIOR to him taking office. While its true they allowcated $350B for Bush, and $350B for Obama, Obama waived his 1/2 of the proceeds and allowed Bush to spend it as he wished. Claiming now that Beck has changed his mind because Obama is president is a ridiculous assertion. Where is YOUR integrity?
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