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I still don't think all the animosity towards those who want to "go back" to the values of God is justified. I would rather have a foundation of morals from God than the have the mindset of the "There is no God, so you can do whatever the hell you want" crowd. To each his own I guess.
Broad brush you paint those who don't believe in a god with.
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Go back and read my posts and tell me if that's what I said. You missed the point.
Your point is well made, no need to reread.
The contempt is palpable in your posts.
Broad brush you paint those who don't believe in a god with.
Since it was to tough for you:
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You can be a very respectful and generous atheist, you don't need to believe God to be a good person,
Didn't think it was that difficult to see I didn't insinuate that EVERYONE who didn't believe in God thought that way, but there, I spelled it out for you.
It wasn't tough for me at all. You posted very clearly your contempt.
Didn't think it was that difficult to see I didn't insinuate that EVERYONE who didn't believe in God thought that way, but there, I spelled it out for you.
Your posts insinuated that christers would never behave in that manner. Guess what, prisons are filled with god believers.
You spelled it out quite simply here:
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If you don't want to belive in God then fine, but the core values and morals of most religions is a hell of a lot better than moral relativism. Without out an afterlife or responsibilty for your actions on Earth of some kind after you die, there is not right and wrong. One can rape, steal, murder, kidnap and walk around randomly punching babies and it doesn't matter. If that's the kind of world you want to live in then I truly feel sorry for you.
I hate religion. People these days who claim to be "Christian" are whining about the Islamic Community Center being built and claiming Islam is a cult, but you know Christianity can be considered a cult too! They all follow a "real" , but actually imaginery guy in the sky and believe he sacrificed himself for all his people and that they must follow the bible. That's a cult! Like Islam is to Allah!
Without out an afterlife or responsibilty for your actions on Earth of some kind after you die, there is not right and wrong. One can rape, steal, murder, kidnap and walk around randomly punching babies and it doesn't matter.
That's EXACTLY what moral relativism means. YAY! You got it!
I hate religion. People these days who claim to be "Christian" are whining about the Islamic Community Center being built and claiming Islam is a cult, but you know Christianity can be considered a cult too! They all follow a "real" , but actually imaginery guy in the sky and believe he sacrificed himself for all his people and that they must follow the bible. That's a cult! Like Islam is to Allah!
That is my opinion.
Excellent Opinion
I also do think that religion is the reason for most wars
Sure would be cool if the world could take a week off
a request to turn back to god is not offensive to me.
dunbar high school does not speak for america.
but they did say something great-----
black young men, pull your pants up and put your gun down
That's EXACTLY what moral relativism means. YAY! You got it!
So you any actions you want to any group under the guise of moral relativism.
Your post reeks of contempt for those who don't believe in your sky-daddy under the guise of moral relativism.
Moral Relativism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) Moral relativism has the unusual distinction—both within philosophy and outside it—of being attributed to others, almost always as a criticism, far more often than it is explicitly professed by anyone.
Your religion tells you to kill adulterers; my belief system does not. And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10.
What kind of morality is that?
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It might have started out that way, but it has been hijacked and sadly the people that still believe the "grass roots" description are being used and manipulated by big money and corporations.
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