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Old 09-09-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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If you asked your average "moderate" muslims if blowing up Israeli cafes was an act of terrorism, what do you think they would say?
You do know that Muslims/Jews/Christians lived in relative peace within the Ottoman empire up until the end of WW1?

You do know that?
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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There is no double standard. We do expect Muslim tolerance and respect for people. And we understand that when you show tolerance and respect you often get it back and return. And when you show intolerance and disrespect, which you advocate, that you hardly ever get tolerance and respect in return.
Obama went on an apology tour in the muslim world, yet there are shouts of "death to obama" in response to the koran burning. Why?


What are muslims doing to try to earn OUR respect? Or again, it's one way, isn't it?
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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You do know that Muslims/Jews/Christians lived in relative peace within the Ottoman empire up until the end of WW1?

You do know that?
what does that have to do with the question I asked?

Also, did the christians, jews, and arabs want the Ottomans occupying their lands?

Ethnic groups also got along nicely under Tito in Yugoslavia... But he was still a brutal dictator.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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Obama went on an apology tour in the muslim world, yet there are shouts of "death to obama" in response to the koran burning. Why?


What are muslims doing to try to earn OUR respect? Or again, it's one way, isn't it?
How many Muslims died in the WTC attack in september 2001?
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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How many Muslims died in the WTC attack in september 2001?
what does that have to do with my question?

How many jews get killed when palestinians conduct suicide bombings in israel? Palestinians even blew up arab owned restaurants that jews went to. I had three relatives killed at one in haifa several years ago.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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The pastor is a gob****e, Rita.
I think you might have your pastors mixed up. The one I linked to is making his neighbors feel welcome because that is what Jesus and the Bible teaches. The one in Florida is the one using his religion to purposely cause strife.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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did the christians, jews, and arabs want the Ottomans occupying their lands?
Ottomans comprised christan/jew/muslim and other faiths.
And they all co-existed in relative peace.



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Ethnic groups also got along nicely under Tito in Yugoslavia... But he was still a brutal dictator.
Tito wasn't a dictator.

And yes, there will alway be tensions between groupings where there are ethnic/religious differences in many countries throughout the planet.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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I think you might have your pastors mixed up. The one I linked to is making his neighbors feel welcome because that is what Jesus and the Bible teaches. The one in Florida is the one using his religion to purposely cause strife.
Apologies Rita.

The pastor you linked is not a gob****e.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:28 PM
 
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abortion, women's rights, and gay rights also annoy and anger muslims. S hould we give those up too so muslims don't get mad at us?
Please allow an educated Muslim woman to explain to you how she considers she has the rights to be a woman,before you comment on that. I have in fact been in discussion with a number of women(Muslims)on this very point and their response was enlightening.
Plenty of gays in the Asian Muslim world,Indonesia and Malaysia,but are thinner on the grund in the middle east. But yes there is a lot of strong views towards gays and abortion too.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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Why can't Christians see that their religion is just as murderous as any religion out there?
I can see it very clearly. Religion will be our demise.
Correction: religion will be political evangelicals demise
Plenty of stoning, killing and hell in the bible.

I'm getting so tired of this "let's resurrect the 1950's bible
thumping" hate mentality. Yawn. And it makes me want to puke
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