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Old 09-08-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: North America
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Hopefully you can ask for a partial refund on that "investment".

Even if there's a 1 in 100,000 chance it would hit an object to richochet off, you're really nitpicking. Why weren't the gangmembers arrested?

County paid for my tuition, I paid then back in full with 30 years on the force.

More than likely, the only trace of those "gang" members was the excrement they left on the driveway.

And no, I'm not nitpicking, it's an unsafe thing to do.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Did it say in the article that these people were definitely MS-13, or did he suspect they were?

You don't fire a gun into the ground in a populated area. It's dangerous and stupid. More than likely either the charges will be dropped or he'll be able to plead out.

And I love it that people use mythbusters a "proof". Jesus.
Not using it as 'proof,' but it's also common sense for anyone who understands materials engineering and physics and just has experience firing the damn things in various conditions.

I'll fire my gun at the ground any time there is someone on my property who actively threatens my life or that of my family. I'd rather 'endanger others' (especially if others are disrespectful thugs who are threatening my life and saying they will kill babies) than allow even the slimmest chance that my family or my dogs got a scratch on them.

This is my half acre of land on this planet...you come here and try to start some sh*t, that's the end.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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With me it's a personal distaste for guns. If a gun is what you want, go for it. Just don't try to hand me one.
Your pallet might undergo a dramatic change should you find yourself in your home with an armed burglar kicking in your back door ... but in your case, you're likely not to be tasting much of anything other than the fear of defenselessness.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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More than likely, the only trace of those "gang" members was the excrement they left on the driveway.
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So it worked.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:38 AM
 
Location: North America
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Not using it as 'proof,' but it's also common sense for anyone who understands materials engineering and physics and just has experience firing the damn things in various conditions.

I'll fire my gun at the ground any time there is someone on my property who actively threatens my life or that of my family. I'd rather 'endanger others' (especially if others are disrespectful thugs who are threatening my life and saying they will kill babies) than allow even the slimmest chance that my family or my dogs got a scratch on them.

What about the innocent bystander who gets shot? Most cities have laws prohibiting the discharge of a firearm in a residential neighborhood. This moron discharged an AK 47. He's lucky he didn't kill anyone.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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So it worked.

It did, but he got arrested, evens it out. IMHO, his story sounds hinky.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What about the innocent bystander who gets shot? Most cities have laws prohibiting the discharge of a firearm in a residential neighborhood. This moron discharged an AK 47. He's lucky he didn't kill anyone.
Those laws have overriding circumstances. This is one of them.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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Those laws have overriding circumstances. This is one of them.

That would be up to the DA. My (considerable) gut tells me there's more to this than what's been published. Call it instinct.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It did, but he got arrested, evens it out. IMHO, his story sounds hinky.
Let's see: gang members get to exit stage right after successfully threatening innocent's life, and innocent gets arrested. Government tries to trump darwinism yet again.

Your understanding of what equates to "evening out" is about as deep as your understanding of what materials cause a bullet to ricochet LOL.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: North America
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Let's see: gang members get to exit stage right after successfully threatening innocent's life, and innocent goes to jail. Government tries to trump darwinism yet again.

You're understanding of what equates to "evening out" is about as deep as your understanding of what materials cause a bullet to ricochet LOL.

Wrong again. It doesn't take a hard surface to ricochet a bullet. Trajectory enters into the equation.

Again, something about this guy's story does not add up.
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