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Old 09-09-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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0bama refused to speak to the wisdom of building the mosque on ground zero, because he said but when it come to burning a book, then he is front and center, speaking to the wisdom of that issue?

as a reminder, 0bama said:

'I was not commenting, and will not comment, on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there. I was commenting very specifically on the right that people have that dates back to our founding. That’s what our country’s about, and I think it’s very important that, as difficult as some of these issues are, that we stay focused on who we are as a people and what our values are all about."

Back then he was protecting the Constitutional rights of Muslims to build a $100 million mosque, will will be seen by some as a lasting monument to an Islamic triumph over the West, with 0bama refusing to add his own thoughts and comments on the issue. But, when it comes to another Constitutional right, which will be a one time event and not a lasting monument, then 0bama feels compelled to add his thoughts and comments?

0bama: "If he's listening, I hope he understands that what he's proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans," Obama said. "That this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance."

"And as a very practical matter, I just want him to understand that this stunt that he is talking about pulling could greatly endanger our young men and women who are in uniform," the president added.

"Look, this is a recruitment bonanza for Al Qaida. You could have serious violence in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan." The president also said Jones' plan, if carried out, could serve as an incentive for terrorist-minded individuals "to blow themselves up" to kill others.



My Way News - Obama implores minister to call off Quran burning


Once again, 0bama makes it his business to pick winners and losers.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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It's two completely different issues. The "mosque" is a rec center that's blocks away and not even viewable from ground zero. There is already an actual mosque a few blocks away anyhow and they had to get permission to build it, which the city of new york granted and protected under the first amendment. His personal opinion has no importance.
The koran burning is a hate act that has been told will put our troops into serious danger, not to mention fuel the fires to have more terrorists recruited, more acts of violence against new troops, less trust in americans for teaching the new troops and police, more hatred of america, and leading to ever more chance of a terror attack on US soil. It's in the interest of national safety.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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It's two completely different issues. The "mosque" is a rec center that's blocks away and not even viewable from ground zero. There is already an actual mosque a few blocks away anyhow and they had to get permission to build it, which the city of new york granted and protected under the first amendment. His personal opinion has no importance.
The koran burning is a hate act that has been told will put our troops into serious danger, not to mention fuel the fires to have more terrorists recruited, more acts of violence against new troops, less trust in americans for teaching the new troops and police, more hatred of america, and leading to ever more chance of a terror attack on US soil. It's in the interest of national safety.
It's only a separate issue to you because no one fears hate-filled Americans will murder people over the building of a mosque, but the burning of a book turns into a national security issue because of hate-filled Muslims might murder Americans.

Both are actions, freedom of religion and freedom of speech, that are Constitutionally protected. Both actions truly anger a lot of people, but 0bama only cares about the sensibilities of the people on one side of the issue.

BTW, are we fighting a war against radical Islamists or not? I wish 0bama and his administration would make up their minds.

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Old 09-09-2010, 03:11 PM
 
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It's two completely different issues. The "mosque" is a rec center that's blocks away and not even viewable from ground zero. There is already an actual mosque a few blocks away anyhow and they had to get permission to build it, which the city of new york granted and protected under the first amendment. His personal opinion has no importance.
The koran burning is a hate act that has been told will put our troops into serious danger, not to mention fuel the fires to have more terrorists recruited, more acts of violence against new troops, less trust in americans for teaching the new troops and police, more hatred of america, and leading to ever more chance of a terror attack on US soil. It's in the interest of national safety.
No, it is freedom of speech, just as is burning the American flag. I don't agree with either but they are both protected speech.

Qur'ans have not been burned yet but the radical Muslims are already burning effigies, issuing fatwas, and threatening the USA. Do you really think they need any excuse? Don't you recall them doing the same actions over a Danish cartoon?

Hate to break it to you but radical Islam will never love Americans. Get over it.

They are already violent against our troops; newsflash: we are at war.

There will continue to be terror attacks on the USA; it is a matter of when and not if. Deal with it. Be prepared.

If this government was interested in National Security they would be sealing our borders, not issuing any visas to persons from Islamic Countries, and deporting every illegal alien because a significant portion are from countries other than Mexico.

Time to wake up because you have a very serious case of denial when it comes to radical Islam. Dhimmification will not keep you free nor will it keep you safe.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:11 PM
 
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Apparently he's agreed to move the location of the mosque elsewhere.
The Koran burning has been canceled.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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No, it is freedom of speech, just as is burning the American flag. I don't agree with either but they are both protected speech.

Qur'ans have not been burned yet but the radical Muslims are already burning effigies, issuing fatwas, and threatening the USA. Do you really think they need any excuse? Don't you recall them doing the same actions over a Danish cartoon?

Hate to break it to you but radical Islam will never love Americans. Get over it.

They are already violent against our troops; newsflash: we are at war.

There will continue to be terror attacks on the USA; it is a matter of when and not if. Deal with it. Be prepared.

If this government was interested in National Security they would be sealing our borders, not issuing any visas to persons from Islamic Countries, and deporting every illegal alien because a significant portion are from countries other than Mexico.

Time to wake up because you have a very serious case of denial when it comes to radical Islam. Dhimmification will not keep you free nor will it keep you safe.
And your so right so many Americans do not care about the burning of our American Flag, stomping over it, laughing at it, and what our beliefs are. Time to get serious about our own Country and who we are, and why we are so despised. People choose to be in denial over RADICAL Islam, and some will never change, they will continue to be in the dark about it nor do they care. They will continue their terror attacks on the USA, and their plotting will never cease. Boy i could not have said it better, National Security you would seem to think would be a priority with our Government, time to also wake their butts up. To choose to sit back and do nothing about this problem, is just sickening, and both parties have let us down on this issue.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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While i do not agree with the burning of the quran, I think it is intentionally provocative, inflammatory and not very Christian like. but it is painting an ugly picture of Muslim tolerance. We have always been told that the number of Muslims who were extremists was infinitesimally small, and yet the president is telling us that the number of Muslim extremists is so large, that simply burning the quran will endanger our national security.

I also think the building of a mosque, by a man whose organization could not afford to build a hamburger stand, is also intentionally provocative, inflammatory and not very Muslim like.

If this Baptist pastor burns the quran, it will be done, gone, and over with, and a year from now no one will even remember it.

But if it is built, that huge mosque will be a decades long reminder to the people who oppose it, and it will continually stir up anger, resentment and frustration with them.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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Apparently he's agreed to move the location of the mosque elsewhere.
The Koran burning has been canceled.
I just saw that on Drudge, thanks for the update.

Too late for for 0bama though, he already chose his side, and once again is picking and choosing which local issues he wants to meddle in.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:53 PM
 
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Funny but sad, They [ who ever they maybe] can burn the bible and American flag and that is OK.
But burn the muslim book and it is not.
Lets put it this
I got the Match.
PS the Ground Zero proposed mosque is not a place of worship. It is a monument to mudrering 3000 innocent Americans.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:51 PM
 
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Apparently he's agreed to move the location of the mosque elsewhere.
The Koran burning has been canceled.
He's not going to move it.
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