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Sometime in 1999, a construction electrician received a new work assignment from his union. The man, Sinclair Hejazi Abdus-Salaam, was told to report to 2World Trade Center, the southern of the twin towers.
Over the next few days, noticing some fellow Muslims on the job, Mr. Abdus-Salaam voiced an equally essential question: “So where do you pray at?” And so he learned about the Muslim prayer room on the 17th floor of the south tower.
He went there regularly in the months to come, first doing the ablution known as wudu in a washroom fitted for cleansing hands, face and feet, and then facing toward Mecca to intone the salat prayer.
Since he was a Muslim, at what point did he make contact with members of al QED in Afghanistan and/or other Muslim groups in other nations to attempt to persuade them to give up terrorism?
At what point did mainstream Muslim organizations openly condemn the terrorists within their own ranks and attempt to deny them funding through whatever means available?
When did Muslims anywhere take concrete steps to rid the world of Islamic terrorism?
Still haven't grasped the difference between a practicing Muslim and a radical terrorist distorting the Quran for a twisted agenda?
If you think that Rauf is a moderate Muslim, whatever a moderate Muslim even means, I have swamp land in Florida...
You think they are moderate, but it's only because they are in the minority - for now. Rauf supports Sharia Law and Sharia Law does not have separation of church and state. He can say all day long that America is a Sharia compliant state. That is a blatant lie. That should be a "case closed" for those that can actually read. I see that we can't always have hope for reading comprehension as well.
If you think that Rauf is a moderate Muslim, whatever a moderate Muslim even means, I have swamp land in Florida...
You think they are moderate, but it's only because they are in the minority - for now. Rauf supports Sharia Law and Sharia Law does not have separation of church and state. He can say all day long that America is a Sharia compliant state. That is a blatant lie. That should be a "case closed" for those that can actually read. I see that we can't always have hope for reading comprehension as well.
The only group of people that I have become aware of as of late, that want a Theocracy in the USA, are the far right wing Christians. Have you ever lived in close proximity to a Muslim family?
Here's the fanatics to be concerned about right here and now...
The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
"This Republican Party of Lincoln has become a party of theocracy."
U.S. Representative Christopher Shays, R-CT, (New York Times 3/23/05)
Dominionists were very close to controlling all three branches of the federal government from which they could impose their narrow interpretation of scripture on the rest of society. People so close to full political power are not going to go away. The American people need to maintain vigilance and understand the history of how dominionists came to political power. And we need to embrace democracy with a passion -- for it was voter apathy that allowed leaders like Pat Robertson to get so many dominionists elected to Congress in the first place.
Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism
Note: In addition to fatwas, numerous Muslim leaders, scholars, and organizations in the United States and other countries have spoken out against terrorism and extremism. You can find further information in the following article collections. We only list a few actual quotes here, but many more can be found in the collections. http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam...part_i_fatwas/
If you think that Rauf is a moderate Muslim, whatever a moderate Muslim even means, I have swamp land in Florida...
You think they are moderate, but it's only because they are in the minority - for now. Rauf supports Sharia Law and Sharia Law does not have separation of church and state. He can say all day long that America is a Sharia compliant state. That is a blatant lie. That should be a "case closed" for those that can actually read. I see that we can't always have hope for reading comprehension as well.
Of course he's not a moderate Muslim. He's a very liberal Muslim.
Sharia Law = Halakha Law. Orthodox Jews follow Halakha law and have Jewish civil courts with no problem in this country. Are you gnashing your teeth over that?
Do you actually not see their intolerance to other religions all over the world? Isn't that a lesson to be learned by all? Do you realize and even see that if Islam was tolerant toward others we wouldn't have the concerns that we do?
Just because we have a Constitution doesn't mean that once they are in the majority they won't try to change it.
It's very frustrating to watch you people not even want to be cautious about where this is leading us. Simply amazing!
They will be in the majority once the Rapture happens, the Jews all move to Israel, and all the atheists go to Canada. In other words, never. Heck, even then, the Mormons might still be the majority.
How exactly do you think the .5% of Americans who are Muslim are going to reach the majority in your lifetime? They would need to double every single year, largely through conversion, for that to happen.
...How exactly do you think the .5% of Americans who are Muslim are going to reach the majority in your lifetime? They would need to double every single year, largely through conversion, for that to happen.
They do that with the sword and fear. Wake up Americans.
When did Muslims anywhere take concrete steps to rid the world of Islamic terrorism?
When? At the same time christians did.
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Do you actually not see their intolerance to other religions all over the world?
And christians are tolerant? The only reason reason christians aren't on a murdering rampage now is because they have no power.
You must either be incredibly ignorant or have selective memory.
It was exactly 200 years ago when an imprisoned pope said "Inquisition" and the Spanish christians started murdering people. Fortunately that was the last major Inquisition.
200 years ago governments did not record births, issue marriage licenses, grant divorces or record deaths. Churches did that. Yeah, christian churches.
If you failed to tithe, the church court would confiscate your property. In some christian countries, the church court, as a matter of courtesy would inform the government of their action just before they confiscated your property, but they didn't need government approval.
You also had to go to a church court to get a divorce, since governments were not involved in marriages or divorces.
You can thank the French Revolution and the subsequent revolutions in other European countries that ended christian control of people's lives.
Personally, I rather enjoy Islamic terrorism.
You people are frightened and for a brief moment perhaps you understand how people suffered and lived in fear of christians, especially catholics.
Maybe that's what upsets you most: You see yourself in them (the Muslims). It's like looking into a mirror.
The real problem is that it wouldn't take much to send the work backward 200 years complete with a pope and a papal army and navy and lots of fired up christian idiots slaughtering people "just because."
Of course he's not a moderate Muslim. He's a very liberal Muslim.
Sharia Law = Halakha Law. Orthodox Jews follow Halakha law and have Jewish civil courts with no problem in this country. Are you gnashing your teeth over that?
There is a huge difference between Sharia Law and Halakha Law. Islam is a missionizing religion and wants to apply Islamic Law to everyone. Judaism does not.
And christians are tolerant? The only reason reason christians aren't on a murdering rampage now is because they have no power.
You must either be incredibly ignorant or have selective memory.
It was exactly 200 years ago when an imprisoned pope said "Inquisition" and the Spanish christians started murdering people. Fortunately that was the last major Inquisition.
200 years ago governments did not record births, issue marriage licenses, grant divorces or record deaths. Churches did that. Yeah, christian churches.
If you failed to tithe, the church court would confiscate your property. In some christian countries, the church court, as a matter of courtesy would inform the government of their action just before they confiscated your property, but they didn't need government approval.
You also had to go to a church court to get a divorce, since governments were not involved in marriages or divorces.
You can thank the French Revolution and the subsequent revolutions in other European countries that ended christian control of people's lives.
Personally, I rather enjoy Islamic terrorism.
You people are frightened and for a brief moment perhaps you understand how people suffered and lived in fear of christians, especially catholics.
Maybe that's what upsets you most: You see yourself in them (the Muslims). It's like looking into a mirror.
The real problem is that it wouldn't take much to send the work backward 200 years complete with a pope and a papal army and navy and lots of fired up christian idiots slaughtering people "just because."
Equating true Christianity with the erroneous teachings of the Catholic Church isn't going to work. Yes, they left a blot for sure, but that is not Christianity as per the New Testament. And I can say that, I was raised a Catholic.
Also, bringing up something they did years ago, i.e. Inquistions, is like chewing on an old bone. Some day you have to let that go, the Catholic Church did. They denounced those actions a long time ago.
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