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View Poll Results: In the long run, liberal ideas:
Always win 4 7.84%
Usually win 21 41.18%
Sometimes win 7 13.73%
Rarely win 9 17.65%
Never win 10 19.61%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-17-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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And therein lies the problem; seeing politics as a game of sorts when one team wins and one loses.
One of the major problems with Americans,everything is a competition and winning is all that matters.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:44 AM
 
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Define "win".

A political "win" is not always a "win" for society in general. Many of the items listed by the OP, while popular, have proven to be harmful to this nation either morally or economically.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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It's liberalism or corporatism, the Public or the Powerful.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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Civil rights laws
Women's right to vote-haven't had a good president since
Minimum wage-horrible
Social security-failure
Multi-culturalism-don't understand what you mean
Integration of the military-sure
Integration of schools-sure
Interracial marriage-sure
Interfaith marriage-sure
Public education system-failure
Medicare-failure
Medicaid-failure
Labor unions-failure
FDIC-sure
Federal Reserve-failure
Public health clinics-failure
Secularism-sure
Sexual freedom-que?
Abortion rights-failure
Birth control-que?

All of these things have been opposed by conservatives, and in the long run, they lost. Can anyone argue with the fact that liberalism always (or usually) wins?
not really sure that all of those things have been opposed by conservatives, but whatever.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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Conservatives concentrate on truth, law, order and religion/philosophy (God).
God = conservatives stuck in the past
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Civil rights laws
Women's right to vote

Minimum wage
Social security
Multi-culturalism
Integration of the military
Integration of schools
Interracial marriage
Interfaith marriage

Public education system
Medicare
Medicaid
Labor unions

FDIC
Federal Reserve
Public health clinics
Secularism
Sexual freedom
Abortion rights
Birth control

All of these things have been opposed by conservatives, and in the long run, they lost. Can anyone argue with the fact that liberalism always (or usually) wins?
The ones in bold are not liberal ideas.

But I voted that if liberalism is taken to its full course it results in failure. Look at California, their liberal policies and public sector unions have destroyed the economy and its moral compass. Medicare & Medicaid are in the red for tens of trillions in unfunded liabilities, and threaten to destroy our economy.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Define "win".

A political "win" is not always a "win" for society in general. Many of the items listed by the OP, while popular, have proven to be harmful to this nation either morally or economically.
Win as in you or your team wins...nation is unimportant.

Winning is all that matters.

It is stupid...but then so are a LOT of members modern day American society...
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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What a left wing rant. Liberals are enlightened tolerant multicultural progressive intelligent individuals and Conservatives are all evil or a bunch of bigots. Another thing is that you seem to be confusing traditionalists with conservatives. Traditionalists concentrate on the past. Progressives concentrate on change. Conservatives concentrate on truth, law, order and religion/philosophy (God).
Great post.
I have seen a lot on these forums and I didn't think I could be surprised anymore but this thread and the responses have done just that!

Unbelievable that some people see things from such a immature vantage point. And somewhat scary too.
I'm actually glad that they think that they are winning whatever game they are playing because it could be truly frightening if they were not. Like a child throwing a tantrum.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It's liberalism or corporatism, the Public or the Powerful.
Your beloved left is bought and paid for by the corporate interests too...
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale View Post
Civil rights laws
Women's right to vote
Minimum wage
Social security
Multi-culturalism
Integration of the military
Integration of schools
Interracial marriage
Interfaith marriage
Public education system
Medicare
Medicaid
Labor unions
FDIC
Federal Reserve
Public health clinics
Secularism
Sexual freedom
Abortion rights
Birth control

All of these things have been opposed by conservatives, and in the long run, they lost. Can anyone argue with the fact that liberalism always (or usually) wins?

I agree with your post

Also, just look at all of the "news" articles that come out of fox"news". they are all OMG, WTF they are taking away my guns, removing my god, those people are anti-american, indoctrinating our children, the gays are taking over, god damn muslims are going to kill us, "news articles". and anytime there's a culture "news" article, just look at the hate spewed by the sheeple that follow their site.
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