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Old 09-17-2010, 09:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
The problem is, what "rate" will they be able to get insurance at? And will they actually BE ABLE?
He's saying if you get sick and don't have insurance you shouldn't expect it and he's 100% correct. Would you expect to get insurance after you wreck your car to pay for it?

If you can get insurance after you get sick why does anyone have an incentive to get it when they are healthy?
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:58 PM
 
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I envy future generation of Amercians, who will hopefully shed the idiocy that surrounds adults of today and will not have to contend with the a-hole candidates that are being offered up. These people, such as Huckabee, are dinosaurs and will not be misssed when they go extinct.
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:49 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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He's saying if you get sick and don't have insurance you shouldn't expect it and he's 100% correct. Would you expect to get insurance after you wreck your car to pay for it?

If you can get insurance after you get sick why does anyone have an incentive to get it when they are healthy?
He's saying that insurance companies shouldn't have to cover those who WERE sick and are now healthy. That's what a pre-existing condition is. I had colon cancer and now show no evidence of disease. In the 45 states that don't have affordable insurance plans for this type of thing I couldn't get insurance. Lucikly I live in one of the 5 states that DOES offer an insurance plan that I can afford. (No it's not welfare. I pay ALOT for it... So don't go there)
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Since it is a criminal offense to give health care without government permission (license) there is no RIGHT to health care.

Let's decriminalize health care, first.
Perhaps then it may come down in cost, once the government is out of the picture.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Bring on the death panels...oh, wait, no such thing



"The Senate Finance Committee is taking the idea of advance care planning consultations with doctors off the table as it works to craft its version of healthcare legislation, a Democratic committee aide said Thursday."

Senate committee scraps healthcare provision that gave rise to 'death panel' claims - Los Angeles Times


Yep, totally made up out of thin air.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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He's saying that insurance companies shouldn't have to cover those who WERE sick and are now healthy. That's what a pre-existing condition is.
No the term can be applied to either and if you have had cancer you are now a risky venture for insurance company, if we want to stick to the car analogy it's like having a driver with a poor driving record that will either pay an enormous rate or not be able to get insurance at all because they are a risk. There is only one thing the consumer should be guaranteed of, if they have insurance the insurance company should not be allowed to drop them if you do get sick.

The only people that should be guaranteed availability of insurance is newborns.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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He's saying if you get sick and don't have insurance you shouldn't expect it and he's 100% correct. Would you expect to get insurance after you wreck your car to pay for it?

If you can get insurance after you get sick why does anyone have an incentive to get it when they are healthy?
This sounds like a Rush Limbaugh talking point. I've heard it many times on this forum. Who even needs to listen to Rush; just wait a few hours and the talking points will appear on CD!

It's getting insurance, as mlassoff pointed out, if you've ever been sick, with any condition. In the case of type II diabetes (or type I for that matter), it may mean not being able to get insurance even if your diabetes is well controlled.
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:01 AM
 
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He sounds very uncompassionate. Even if he's against national health care, I think it's cold of him to disparage sick people like that.
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:09 AM
 
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This sounds like a Rush Limbaugh talking point. I've heard it many times on this forum. Who even needs to listen to Rush; just wait a few hours and the talking points will appear on CD!
LOL, the only time I ever hear what Rush has to say is when a liberal repeats it. You apparently listen to him more than me because I wouldn't be aware of anything he's said for the last 10 years and even then it wasn't by choice..
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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No the term can be applied to either and if you have had cancer you are now a risky venture for insurance company, if we want to stick to the car analogy it's like having a driver with a poor driving record that will either pay an enormous rate or not be able to get insurance at all because they are a risk. There is only one thing the consumer should be guaranteed of, if they have insurance the insurance company should not be allowed to drop them if you do get sick.

The only people that should be guaranteed availability of insurance is newborns.
so.............only wealthy people with pre-existing conditions deserve health care

...........what was that about death panels?
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