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Old 09-18-2010, 08:09 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Wow, I can't believe that people think we can do away with the FDA and the Dept. of Agriculture! We have one of the safest farm-to-market systems in the world and that didn't come along by accident. With the big factory farms now days it's more important than ever because they could literally kill 1/4 of our population in one contamination event. Yes, people are still dying with ecoli even with the D. of A. but we have an agency that can back track to where contaminations are coming from and get warnings out to people to lessen the amount of deaths that occur. Do you really think self-regulation is going to put an end to greedy and unsafe farm practices just because they can get sued? That assuming a private citizen would even be able to trace their ecoli back to its source without something like the D of A. which they couldn't do.
Some people just don't think things out at all. Without a government we would be in a world of hurt. Sure the government we have now is no where near perfect but if we didn't have any... Good post.
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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Let fat people die! Guess whose idea this is?

??? Wants Fat People To Die?


YouTube - Glenn Beck Wants Fat People To Die?

So glenn beck wants to commit suicide..I say let him..glad we can agree on something
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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Some people just don't think things out at all. Without a government we would be in a world of hurt. Sure the government we have now is no where near perfect but if we didn't have any... Good post.
The Dept. of Agriculture is nothing but a way to pass on subsidies and tax breaks to big agriculture. No farmer who wants to stay in business wants to sell tainted meat. Interesting reading: Ezra Klein - Is it Time to Get Rid of the Agricultural Committees?

People have become so infantized into thinking that we need the government to take care of us at every turn. Wake up and think things through. How did we ever exist without this bloated federal government?
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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The self same government that allows, nay encourages manufacturers to use HFC (one of the major causes of the growing obesity problem in this country) in so many processed foods? The same government that bends to the corn lobbyists? THAT government?
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Let the fat people die and hold those who fed them responsible?

But trying to teach out children healthy eating choices is "government takeover!"

What is the tactic here?
Good lord, the man is a lunatic! I can't believe people watch this crap!
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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I haven't watched the clip so not sure what Beck said exactly - but as far as holding those who feed them responsible, yes, they ARE enablers.

Once these people get to a size where they can't go get their own food etc, feed them HEALTHY food ONLY. "You want junk/fried food? Go get it yourself, otherwise, here's your SALAD"

Bringing someone that's 380lbs choc chip cookies and pizza IS enabling (oh but I forgot, they only drink diet sodas)

Okay - I watched the clip.........good GRIEF, are you people NOT able to distinguish between reality and someone saying something totally outrageous for effect?

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Old 09-18-2010, 10:02 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Wow, I can't believe that people think we can do away with the FDA and the Dept. of Agriculture! We have one of the safest farm-to-market systems in the world and that didn't come along by accident. With the big factory farms now days it's more important than ever because they could literally kill 1/4 of our population in one contamination event. Yes, people are still dying with ecoli even with the D. of A. but we have an agency that can back track to where contaminations are coming from and get warnings out to people to lessen the amount of deaths that occur. Do you really think self-regulation is going to put an end to greedy and unsafe farm practices just because they can get sued? That assuming a private citizen would even be able to trace their ecoli back to its source without something like the D of A. which they couldn't do.
The FDA has systematically approved the addition of chemicals to our food that are toxic and have been linked directly to serious health conditions. Pharmaceutical companies have their hands in everything concerning health and health care...the sicker we get, the more money they make on their chemicals...the more chemicals and toxic things the FDA approves for food, the sicker we get...it's all about money.

The sad truth is, most people don't know what a truly healthy diet is, because even the food pyramid hanging in virtually every classroom across America is telling us a lie. Humans should not be eating animal-based diets, period. The myth about needing meat for protein and dairy for calcium is just that...a myth. But spraying herbicides/pesticides on the plants we consume means they no longer contain the living enzymes necessary for boosting immune system function, and the chemicals sprayed during the growing process makes them not only devoid of most of their original nutritional value, but actually toxic and unhealthy for whoever consumes them.

In short, if our immune systems are working at optimum levels, we don't get cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc...and the only way to ensure that we are functioning at optimum levels is to provide our bodies with those living enzymes present in organically-grown, herbicide and pesticide-free fruits, grains, & veggies.

Health and Healthy Life: Toxic Chemicals In Food: Your Number 1 Weight Loss Enemy
USDA and the unhealthy status of meat | National Catholic Reporter | Find Articles at BNET
Dr Fuhrman - Eat to Live Program - South Beach Diet is Dangerous
OpEdNews - Article: The Aspartame Cover-Up?
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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You eat too much, you become obese, you pay for your own healthcare. Kind of a no=brainer for me.
How about other lifestyles that are bad for health such as smoking, heavy drinking, medication abuse, driving while intoxicated, lack of exercise, etc........... Should these people also pay for their own healthcare?
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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We don't need big government nanny state to take care of us. If a company sells tainted meat, they will go out of business with lawsuits. The catch is that the government shouldn't prevent citizens from bringing lawsuits against corporations for situations just like this. Big business is just as bad as big government.
Aren't people still dying today from bad drugs and ecoli contamination WITH our dear FDA and Dept. of Agriculture????
You do realize that people, especially young children, can die from eating e-coli infected meat, don't you?
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I haven't watched the clip so not sure what Beck said exactly - but as far as holding those who feed them responsible, yes, they ARE enablers.

Once these people get to a size where they can't go get their own food etc, feed them HEALTHY food ONLY. "You want junk/fried food? Go get it yourself, otherwise, here's your SALAD"

Bringing someone that's 380lbs choc chip cookies and pizza IS enabling (oh but I forgot, they only drink diet sodas)

Okay - I watched the clip.........good GRIEF, are you people NOT able to distinguish between reality and someone saying something totally outrageous for effect?
You just hit the nail on the head. These people didn't catch what he said or how he said it. They are such haters that they just can't back off no matter what is going on.
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