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Old 09-23-2010, 11:07 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Poor leftists,losing it so fast...

But then their ideology is dying out.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:32 PM
 
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When even the Democrats running for office do not want to be identified with Obama or his policies you know they are in trouble.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:36 PM
 
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THANK GOD FOR THE PRESIDENT

Again, I want to say,“Thank You Barack Obama!

This is exactly the kind of hope and change we desperately needed!
What blog did you rip this from? Something on RedState no doubt. Or a chainletter from your inbox.

I'll play, however.

Let me go ahead and restate, for the MILLIONTH TIME, that Obama is NOT a progressive. The tea party has Christine O'Donnell, and the progressives have... Nobody. At least nobody in power, short of maybe Alan Grayson or Feingold. Obama, by policy, is a moderate/centrist Republican. He's not an extreme Republican, but only his failure to take a strong stance on anything keeps him from that title.

Obama has no progressive policy or action to his name.

Healthcare was not progressive, it was a nationwide monopoly for the insurance industry, courtesy Democrats.

Finance was not progressive, it was a tattered piece of swiss-cheese, with a bold label that said "Historic Finance Reform!!!" Don't believe the label. There was little to no reform. Had progressives been in power, wall street would be running with the green blood of guilty corporations and their criminal CEO's. As it is, Obama is spooning and nuzzling corporate America, and has given the banks a blank check on our treasure, via the Fed.

Your list is mostly hyperbole and unsupported (radical) opinion, but you are free to gloat. We did not elect a progressive, merely one who talked a good progressive game during the election. As soon as he put on the crown, he became a Republican in good standing with the establishment, and appointed not a single progressive to any position of importance. He packed his ranks with conservatives and lobbyists, corporate goons and banker puppets.

Progressive America (and those lesser believers known simply as "Democrats") are not going to turn out in force to support a fraud. It's only a matter of time before a schism forms in the ranks of the left, as it has in the right. The Tea Party was borne out of a realization that the Republican establishment was not representing the interests of the people that elected them. Ideological purity and integrity is more important to some conservatives now than winning elections (See: Harry Reid v Sharon Angle, or the ouster of Mike Castle). The left has come to the same realization, and this spark was only delayed because we were placated for a year or so into believing we had already elected our progressive champion.

The liar-in-chief is a corporatist Republican who will always talk progressive in the moments leading up to an election. You can witness that right now, and in the coming months. As soon as the votes are in, he turns to his corporate advisors and conservative appointees, asking how he may best serve and please the establishment, and not incur the wrath of Murdoch and Fox News.

We must half-heartedly vote for the Democrats in this election, because the Republicans will take a wounded nation and push it right into the abyss. They have not come forth with any plan to solve anything. The only thing we may conclude is that Republicans want tax cuts for the wealthy. Beyond that, they are mute. But Democrats must not take votes for office as votes of confidence, because progressives and liberals are mulling over secession from the Democratic Corporatist Party. Without representation, we will seek alternatives. And our movement will not be co-opted by Glenn Beck.

Side Note: People purchased more guns because the propaganda machine told them Obama was going to take away all of their guns. Yeah. Because if there's one thing it's easy to take away, it's a rifle from a psycho. The "Great Gun Roundup" hasn't happened yet, and it looks like there is no pending order to get it started. This gun issue is a non-issue, used every election to galvanize the conservative base. I'll go ahead and wager with anyone on this forum that the president is not going to waste all of the resources of law enforcement and risk a revolution with a nationwide search-and-seizure move in every household.

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Old 09-24-2010, 12:03 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!
My friends and neighbors aren't interested in "taking back America" because we don't think anyone took our America to begin with. "They have taken away my LORD, and I know not where they have laid him" (John 20:13).
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Old 09-24-2010, 12:04 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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What blog did you rip this from? Something on RedState no doubt. Or a chainletter from your inbox.

I'll play, however.

Let me go ahead and restate, for the MILLIONTH TIME, that Obama is NOT a progressive. The tea party has Christine O'Donnell, and the progressives have... Nobody. At least nobody in power, short of maybe Alan Grayson or Feingold. Obama, by policy, is a moderate/centrist Republican. He's not an extreme Republican, but only his failure to take a strong stance on anything keeps him from that title.

Obama has no progressive policy or action to his name.

Healthcare was not progressive, it was a nationwide monopoly for the insurance industry, courtesy Democrats.

Finance was not progressive, it was a tattered piece of swiss-cheese, with a bold label that said "Historic Finance Reform!!!" Don't believe the label. There was little to no reform. Had progressives been in power, wall street would be running with the green blood of guilty corporations and their criminal CEO's. As it is, Obama is spooning and nuzzling corporate America, and has given the banks a blank check on our treasure, via the Fed.

Your list is mostly hyperbole and unsupported (radical) opinion, but you are free to gloat. We did not elect a progressive, merely one who talked a good progressive game during the election. As soon as he put on the crown, he became a Republican in good standing with the establishment, and appointed not a single progressive to any position of importance. He packed his ranks with conservatives and lobbyists, corporate goons and banker puppets.

Progressive America (and those lesser believers known simply as "Democrats") are not going to turn out in force to support a fraud. It's only a matter of time before a schism forms in the ranks of the left, as it has in the right. The Tea Party was borne out of a realization that the Republican establishment was not representing the interests of the people that elected them. Ideological purity and integrity is more important to some conservatives now than winning elections (See: Harry Reid v Sharon Angle, or the ouster of Mike Castle). The left has come to the same realization, and this spark was only delayed because we were placated for a year or so into believing we had already elected our progressive champion.

The liar-in-chief is a corporatist Republican who will always talk progressive in the moments leading up to an election. You can witness that right now, and in the coming months. As soon as the votes are in, he turns to his corporate advisors and conservative appointees, asking how he may best serve and please the establishment, and not incur the wrath of Murdoch and Fox News.

We must half-heartedly vote for the Democrats in this election, because the Republicans will take a wounded nation and push it right into the abyss. They have not come forth with any plan to solve anything. The only thing we may conclude is that Republicans want tax cuts for the wealthy. Beyond that, they are mute. But Democrats must not take votes for office as votes of confidence, because progressives and liberals are mulling over secession from the Democratic Corporatist Party. Without representation, we will seek alternatives. And our movement will not be co-opted by Glenn Beck.

Side Note: People purchased more guns because the propaganda machine told them Obama was going to take away all of their guns. Yeah. Because if there's one thing it's easy to take away, it's a rifle from a psycho. The "Great Gun Roundup" hasn't happened yet, and it looks like there is no pending order to get it started. This gun issue is a non-issue, used every election to galvanize the conservative base. I'll go ahead and wager with anyone on this forum that the president is not going to waste all of the resources of law enforcement and risk a revolution with a nationwide search-and-seizure move in every household.
This country is too center-right to have a president who advances the progressive agenda--unless you also have a Congress supporting him that doesn't care about getting re-elected.
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Old 09-24-2010, 12:23 AM
 
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This country is too center-right to have a president who advances the progressive agenda--unless you also have a Congress supporting him that doesn't care about getting re-elected.
The people of the country are not center-right, but center-left. The majority self-label as conservative when asked if they are conservative or liberal, because they don't seem to understand fully the differences between the two. However, when asked about specific issues, they overwhelmingly choose progressive stances, based on polling questions that go into those specific issues:

"The role of government – 69 percent of Americans believe the government “should care for those who can’t care for themselves”; twice as many people (43 percent vs. 20 percent) want “government to provide many more services even if it means an increase in spending” as want government to provide fewer services “in order to reduce spending.”

The economy — 77 percent of Americans think Congress should increase the minimum wage; 66 percent believe “upper-income people” pay too little in taxes; 53 percent feel the Bush administration’s tax cuts have failed because they have increased the deficit and caused cuts in government programs.

Social issues — 61 percent of Americans support embryonic stem cell research; 62 percent want to protect Roe v. Wade; only 3 percent of Americans rank same-sex marriage as the “most important” social issue.

Security — 43 percent of Americans say we are spending too much on our military; 60 percent feel the federal government should do more about restricting the kinds of guns that people can purchase.

The environment — 75 percent of Americans would be wiling to pay more for electricity if it were generated by renewable sources to help reduce global warming; 79 percent want higher emissions standard for automobiles.

Energy – 52 percent of Americans believe “the best way for the U.S. to reduce its reliance on foreign oil” is to “have the government invest in alternative energy sources”; 68 percent of the public thinks U.S. energy policy is better solved by conservation than production.

Immigration — 57 percent of Americans feel “most recent immigrants to the U.S. contribute to this country” rather than “cause problems.” Sixty-seven percent of Americans feel that “on the whole,” immigration is a “good thing for this country today.”

Health care — 69 percent of Americans think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure all Americans have access to health coverage; 76 percent find access to health care more important than maintaining the Bush tax cuts; three in five would be willing to have their own taxes increased to achieve universal coverage."


American National Election Studies

And the reason Obama USES progressive speeches during elections, and it WORKS, is because that's what the American people want to hear!!! How else did he get elected? Not by spouting conservative talking points! Not by talking about right wing ideology, or tax-cuts for the rich!

Progressive words win elections, because progressivism is part of our national culture. You may not want to call it that, but the polls show that America is not center-right but center-left. Asking people the self-label as conservative or progressive/liberal does not get to the heart of their beliefs, because the propaganda machine has tarnished those distinctions.
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