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Old 09-24-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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The tax has reduced cigarette usage?
No but it has increased funding the cover the medical cost of the illnesses associated with cigarette smoking.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:17 PM
 
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Sorry AM, you ran away from that discussion an hour or so ago.

But if you want to rejoin it again, then please, come up with those "empirical facts" instead of irrelevant dictionary definitions.
ok, I see now that any scientific encyclopedic NON-dictionary links I post you will deem "irrelevant" ...

I would love to see your scientific evidence
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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ok, I see now that any scientific encyclopedic NON-dictionary links I post you will deem "irrelevant" ...
No... just links that are irrelevant to the point you are supposedly trying to make.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:21 PM
 
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No... just links that are irrelevant to the point you are supposedly trying to make.
ok, just saying something is "irrelevant" does not make a case for your argument. You must have clear reasons, backed with scientific sources, please. Otherwise, you are just retorting, and not making your case.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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Patriarchy myth again, that men will always protect men. I suppose thats why young women earn more than young men, that more women have college degrees, that women live longer, that divorce courts are biased in the favor of women, that only men are required to register for the selective service, that only men can be drafted, that only men can serve in combat, that much more money is spent on women's medical issues, that women have higher life expectancies, that men have much higher suicide rates, that men work much more dangerous jobs and are much more likely to die on the job....

Yup, men are all conspiring to protect other men, and women have it so bad....
Men with similar education and qualifications still on average out earn women. The overwhelming majority of business, social and political leaders in this country are men. There are corporations and businesses the place "Glass Ceilings" on the career aspirations of women. There is still a tremendous amount of gender based discrimination that appears in the workplace.

If you are so upset about being a man why don't you have sexual re-assignment surgery.

Quit bitching and man up!
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So you really believe there are LESS abortions now than prior to Roe v Wade? really?
Yes, I do believe there are FEWER abortions now, per capita.
There are effectively no statistics for abortions performed before Roe v Wade.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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Then no more control, and no more abortions except life of mother (self defense.) The culture of death is killing American innocents and killing our American society, twofold evil.
What is killing American society is closed minded individuals that will not let other people live their lives as they see fit. If a woman chooses to get an abortion that is her right. Frankly, it's none of your business.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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ok, just saying something is "irrelevant" does not make a case for your argument.
I have made my argument.

You have done nothing to challenge it. You offered dictionary definitions that had exactly nothing to do with the argument I made, and you have offered no counter argument at all.

I'm perfectly willing to cross swords with you on this subject, AM. But first you have to draw your sword.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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Yes, I do believe there are FEWER abortions now, per capita.
There are effectively no statistics for abortions performed before Roe v Wade.
Then you believe something not based on fact!

Human life is a SCIENTIFIC FACT! Do you believe in that?
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:27 PM
 
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You make my point from earlier post that family members force many "legal" abortions .

it's called parenting. just because that is what I think about my daughter does not mean the 13 year old would want the same thing. all you can do as a parent is guide. in this case I would make sure my child had all the options but abortion would be my first choice. there's the word again choice. the final choice would be the child's and I hope they would see it my way. either way. no abortion is easy, as are the other choices if you do not want a child and find yourself pregnant. besides, no doctor would do an abortion on an unwilling child.
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