Question for leftists re: Free speech and art (claim, support, religion)

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

So why were liberals in the US saying the Danish cartoonists shouldn't be drawing mohammed cartoons?

They weren't.

Originally Posted by betamanlet

And there were death threats and acts of violence from cartoons of mohammed. How many people have catholics kille din response to this given he depicted himself assasinating the pope?

None that I'm aware of. Your point?

Originally Posted by betamanlet

]How many embassies got burned down?

None that I'm aware of. Your point?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Isn't abortion stupid?

Is it? Why don't you explain just why it is?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

And lots said that Southpark shouldn't have even depicted Mohammed as a teddy bear. Remember the death threats as well?

That has what to do with liberals? Are you of the opinion that South Park is a conservative cartoon?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Was it a stupid idea fo rthis guy to draw pictures of himself assinating world leaders?

I think so.

Don't you?

[betamanlet]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

That has what to do with liberals? Are you of the opinion that South Park is a conservative cartoon?

I never said it's conservative, I said it's not liberal..

They have done shows about the idiocy of political correctness, the idiocy of smoking bans, etc. That doesn't sound liberal to me, does it?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Lots of things are "stupid" but you wouldn't call them stupid unless you dissaproved of them and didn't want them to do it.

Sure I would.

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Are there any other rights people have that you would call it "stupid" to exercise them?

It depends on how they exercised them. I suspect that every right has been exercised stupidly at one point or another.

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Isn't abortion stupid?

Not generally. No.

But there are no shortage of people who use it stupidly.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

So what was so wrong with a pastor in FL burning his own books?

Ask that to the guy who was killed in Badakhshan.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Do you recall not too long ago the President et al begging a pastor in FL to not burn his own books?

Of course. What about it?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Live with the consequences? What consequences for burning his own books? You mean muslim violence? If he burns a book, and muslims kill people, it's somehow his fault and not the fault of th epeople who did the killing?

If those people would not have died otherwise? Oh yeah, the blood is on his hands too.

Originally Posted by betamanlet

I then suppose have no doubt that you think women who dress in revealing clothes have to "live with the consequences" of being raped? if they get raped?

We had that discussion already. You lost it then too.

Do you know what the definition of insanity is?

[Pamky]

Originally Posted by betamanlet

Live with the consequences? What consequences for burning his own books? You mean muslim violence? If he burns a book, and muslims kill people, it's somehow his fault and not the fault of th epeople who did the killing?

I then suppose have no doubt that you think women who dress in revealing clothes have to "live with the consequences" of being raped? if they get raped?

Most rape is not because of revealing clothes. So .

Funny how you ignore the other cases. You don't think there will be no consequences if you show up at a church shouting anti-christians insults?

Use your common sense.