Pee-Wee football now on frontlines of war against religion (regular, money, support)
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I'm not a lawyer, so I won't pretend to be here in this forum. I don't know if that's the proper legal approach or not.
But here's the reality of that situation...
The directors of that league are applying adult pressure on a bunch of kids. They're making everyone either "be part of the group" by joining in his "voluntary" prayer, or else any nonparticipant is singled out.
The natural reaction by the director and his "faithful" followers?
"Hey! That kid's not one of us!"
A pee-wee football league (unless it's an exclusive church team) is no place for an adult to "lead" other people's kids in any kind of religious observance. The kids aren't there for any kind of religious affirmation. It's a football team. And the article states that it's a county football league.
Coach, stick to the subject. Save your sermon and group-led prayer service for Sunday school. Stop trying to bully little kids with your bible.
I'm not a lawyer, so I won't pretend to be here in this forum. I don't know if that's the proper legal approach or not.
But here's the reality of that situation...
The directors of that league are applying adult pressure on a bunch of kids. They're making everyone either "be part of the group" by joining in his "voluntary" prayer, or else any nonparticipant is singled out.
The natural reaction by the director and his "faithful" followers?
"Hey! That kid's not one of us!"
A pee-wee football league (unless it's an exclusive church team) is no place for an adult to "lead" other people's kids in any kind of religious observance. The kids aren't there for any kind of religious affirmation. It's a football team. And the article states that it's a county football league.
Coach, stick to the subject. Save your sermon and group-led prayer service for Sunday school. Stop trying to bully little kids with your bible.
Do you think the same thing about the team in Dearborn who moved their pratices to the middle of the night to accomodate Muslims? What about the other kids who are not Muslim? Wouldn't this be the same thing? The school is forcing non muslims to obey Muslim faith.
Do you think the same thing about the team in Dearborn who moved their pratices to the middle of the night to accommodate Muslims? What about the other kids who are not Muslim? Wouldn't this be the same thing? The school is forcing non muslims to obey Muslim faith.
This didn't put pressure on anyone to be led in religious observance of any kind. If everyone agreed to do this then I don't see a problem. Time of day itself isn't like praying. This is more like, "hey lets play on that side of the field because player #2 is allergic to the trees on this side of the field". It's an accommodation. But if everyone didn't agree then there would be a problem and they would be within their rights to make a deal out of it of they wanted to.
This didn't put pressure on anyone to be led in religious observance of any kind. If everyone agreed to do this then I don't see a problem. Time of day itself isn't like praying. This is more like, "hey lets play on that side of the field because player #2 is allergic to the trees on this side of the field". It's an accommodation. But if everyone didn't agree then there would be a problem and they would be within their rights to make a deal out of it of they wanted to.
And how exactly do you know that everyone was in agreement? If you mean the school administrators then yeah you're right, but what about the kids? How do you know they agreed? You simply don't.
And how exactly do you know that everyone was in agreement? If you mean the school administrators then yeah you're right, but what about the kids? How do you know they agreed? You simply don't.
I don't Do you? I also stated that if they DIDN'T agree they could speak up. Did you reall all of my post of just skim it?
So don't participate, it's that damn easy! Are you one of those who wants to ruin everyone else's time because you don't like what is going on?
Because it's open to everyone not just those who want to pray and it's not a religious event in any way shape or form. There is no reason for prayer to be there. NONE. Nobody should HAVE to step aside and not participate, and be singled out... that's just rude. If you only want those who want to pray to join the team then make it a church sponsored program or something.
I know you are not too stupid to grasp this concept so I'm guessing you are just to stubborn to admit you are wrong.
Atheist here. The football league has a right to pray if they like, as long as they're not publicly funded. Free speech and all. I think prayer is ridiculous and useless, but I'll stand up for the right of this private group to do it as long as they're not using public funds for their team. I'd say the same thing if this group was chanting to Satan, dancing the circle, or paying homage to Allah before playing.
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My 2 cents...
