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I don't care too much about the studies because that is not my experience. The difference between those two drugs has a lot more to do with how you do them. I can go to Starbucks and buy a cup of coffee with a smile, there's no seedy underlying process involved. When I went to smoke weed, we had to do it sneaky style, with homemade goods, in a hidden location, and of course I was doing it with other people who coincidentally...were dirtbags. Those same people helped get me started in other things, and it all stemmed from our weed relationship. From a purely scientific perspective, those studies may be correct, but from a real world perspective...unrealistic.
All of what you typed about marijuana would be null and void if it was legal. You wouldn't have to get it from shady people, wouldn't have to hide in fear of being busted, wouldn't have to fear getting offered other drugs. Your refusal to look at scientific studies while going on personal experiences which is a small sample size just doesn't make sense. If pot was legal you could go into a store with a smile just like Starbucks.....
It would be null/void? That might be true in 20 years, but not at the flip of a switch. Ditching the scientific studies for personal experience makes perfect sense, opinions are formed through input. I can spend twenty minutes reading, but no matter what it says, it will not outweigh years of life experience.
It would be null/void? That might be true in 20 years, but not at the flip of a switch. Ditching the scientific studies for personal experience makes perfect sense, opinions are formed through input. I can spend twenty minutes reading, but no matter what it says, it will not outweigh years of life experience.
Do you have a Phd in Psychology? Sociology? Science? Drug Addiction? Why should we believe what you are saying is credible anyways? Once again, your experiences are a small sample size. You may want to remain ignorant to cold hard facts if that makes you feel better but you are not being rational. And yes, take away the black market and you will have those shady situations your described disappear very fast. If I'm going to a pot place to buy it, they are not going to offer me cocaine, ecstasy, or LSD. I'm not going to have to go hang with shady people to buy the pot. It's a hoot when people can't handle facts performed by professionals and play recliner specialists.
I'm not trying to make you believe what I'm saying, I'm merely explaining my position. It's not that I can't handle it, it's that I don't put as much weight into it as my own experience. That really shouldn't bother you, it's how opinions are formed. If you didn't have direct experience, you would rely on the study because that's the limit of your experience, perfectly acceptable. If your experience differed from something you read online, would you immediately change your opinion? And then what if the next study you read said something different, do you change it again?
I'm not trying to make you believe what I'm saying, I'm merely explaining my position. It's not that I can't handle it, it's that I don't put as much weight into it as my own experience. That really shouldn't bother you, it's how opinions are formed. If you didn't have direct experience, you would rely on the study because that's the limit of your experience, perfectly acceptable. If your experience differed from something you read online, would you immediately change your opinion? And then what if the next study you read said something different, do you change it again?
I've been to college and smoked pot quite a bit. I'm not oblivious to what goes on (although I don't currently smoke and haven't for years). However, I know my experiences are a small sample size and take that into consideration along with hard scientific studies/facts. You have your position but there's not much rational to back it up. Sorry, but folks will call you out on it on here. I just hate to see the fear mongering and false facts being thrown out there. I'm very well read on the subject and anybody who looks objectively can see why I, and others, are often disgruntled with what folks with your stance post. I'm going to go with the credible studies that don't have any hidden agendas. You can ignore the facts all you want and have your opinion but that doesn't mean it's correct (and in this case you are way off base....sorry).
There will be a lot of people who loose their job and a lot of lawsuits filed if this passes at a large cost. A new testing procedure will have to be developed to test for DUI at a cost to the taxpayers. Prop 19 is just to scetchy, it leaves out the most important details such as those and how much it will be taxed and how the taxes will be spent.
There will be a lot of people who loose their job and a lot of lawsuits filed if this passes at a large cost. A new testing procedure will have to be developed to test for DUI at a cost to the taxpayers. Prop 19 is just to scetchy, it leaves out the most important details such as those and how much it will be taxed and how the taxes will be spent.
Please, officers are presently using field sobriety tests to determine if drivers are driving stoned. It's not all that hard to figure out if they toked up recently. Yes Prop 19 isn't perfect but it's a step in the right direction and 100 times better than the status quo. I'm sure the hundred millions and even billions of dollars saved on not jailing simple pot smokers, paying for court costs, etc. will be more then enough to over anything that comes up from legalization. I could care less if prison guards, people who build prisons, and other legal folks lose their jobs as they are praying on people who most often don't hurt others and just toke up at home to relax or help deal with the pain of an ailment. There is much more important crime they can need to be dealing with anyways.
I've been to college and smoked pot quite a bit. I'm not oblivious to what goes on (although I don't currently smoke and haven't for years). However, I know my experiences are a small sample size and take that into consideration along with hard scientific studies/facts. You have your position but there's not much rational to back it up. Sorry, but folks will call you out on it on here. I just hate to see the fear mongering and false facts being thrown out there. I'm very well read on the subject and anybody who looks objectively can see why I, and others, are often disgruntled with what folks with your stance post. I'm going to go with the credible studies that don't have any hidden agendas. You can ignore the facts all you want and have your opinion but that doesn't mean it's correct (and in this case you are way off base....sorry).
Pulling from your own experience is perfectly rational behavior, prioritizing your web readings above your experience is irrational. I understand what you're saying about my small sample size, maybe the way things went in my Northern California city were completely different from the rest of the state, but judging from friends who have come and gone from other areas, it's no different. I'm not ignoring the facts, I'm merely prioritizing them differently than you. I don't have a hidden agenda, which is another incorrect assumption you have made about me, which decreases the validity of your opinion based on my experience. I have no religions or political affiliation, in fact I don't like either of those things. Read all you want about determining the future, just don't be surprised if it's different from what you expect. At least from my perspective, I would be pleasantly surprised if it were different.
Please, officers are presently using field sobriety tests to determine if drivers are driving stoned. It's not all that hard to figure out if they toked up recently...
Yes but how will it be proven in court? BAC is used wonderfully in courts because it's nearly irrefutable. We can limp by with FS checks, but it's certainly not ideal.
Please, officers are presently using field sobriety tests to determine if drivers are driving stoned. It's not all that hard to figure out if they toked up recently. Yes Prop 19 isn't perfect but it's a step in the right direction and 100 times better than the status quo. I'm sure the hundred millions and even billions of dollars saved on not jailing simple pot smokers, paying for court costs, etc. will be more then enough to over anything that comes up from legalization. I could care less if prison guards, people who build prisons, and other legal folks lose their jobs as they are praying on people who most often don't hurt others and just toke up at home to relax or help deal with the pain of an ailment. There is much more important crime they can need to be dealing with anyways.
Sorry but your wrong, there is no feild test that proves your stoned, tou must submit for the THC test and that only proves you smoke dope, this will never hold up in court because weed would be legal and having THC in your system would mean nothing.
Prop 19 is too sketchy and any resonsable person can see that.
Prison gaurds do not put the people in prison, they just watch the ones that the courts do.
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