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Old 10-02-2010, 10:28 PM
 
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Now who is socialist? Now who relies on big government and benefits from the nanny state?

TaxProf Blog: Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Now who is socialist? Now who relies on big government and benefits from the nanny state?

TaxProf Blog: Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
I misread your title, I guess. Somehow I wonder how the people in the blue states would eat at any trough without the food that the red states provide. Can you explain that to me? I didn't think so. Wait until the blues secede and see how much the tariffs raise your food prices.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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I misread your title, I guess. Somehow I wonder how the people in the blue states would eat at any trough without the food that the red states provide. Can you explain that to me? I didn't think so. Wait until the blues secede and see how much the tariffs raise your food prices.
You know, speak for yourself. I live in New York which, according to wikipedia...

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New York is a major agricultural producer, ranking among the top five states for agricultural products such as dairy, apples, cherries, cabbage, potatoes, onions, maple syrup and many others.
Not only that, but New York is a major wine producer. In my personal opinion, New York's white wines are far superior to California's.

The fact is, if anyone should complain about socialism, it should be the blue states. Our tax dollars are being spent in North Dakota and Alaska, which means our state taxes go up and people leave for red states (which our tax dollars built to begin with.) It's like a bad cycle.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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I misread your title, I guess. Somehow I wonder how the people in the blue states would eat at any trough without the food that the red states provide. Can you explain that to me? I didn't think so. Wait until the blues secede and see how much the tariffs raise your food prices.
Most of my food comes from the good old farms of Massachusetts. The farmer's market, CSAs, and family friends provide me a direct link to my food. My cheese and milk is from Vermont. My eggs are from a local farm. Meat is the only thing that I am not sure of the origins.

It's naive to think that we in the blue states rely on the red for our food. Local food tends to taste much better (and be better for the economy and environment) than mass produced, shipping quality produce.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Ever stop and think that your point makes perfect sense to people who live in "red states"? I live in a red state and we have tons of money sucking leaches, they're a huge reason why this is a red state, because people are sick and tired of it and we vote "red" because we want it fixed. People in blue states like New England have much lower populations of these people and they're completely happy paying higher taxes to keep it that way. They vote blue because Democrats like to keep their caged slave votes on the back burner until an election comes around, they're usually kept in red states.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:49 PM
 
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I misread your title, I guess. Somehow I wonder how the people in the blue states would eat at any trough without the food that the red states provide. Can you explain that to me? I didn't think so. Wait until the blues secede and see how much the tariffs raise your food prices.
Oh my. I guess you don't realize that California produces more food than any other state in the U.S. - by far.

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Old 10-02-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Not only that, but New York is a major wine producer. In my personal opinion, New York's white wines are far superior to California's.
In California I have never seen a bottle of New York state wine.

Can you say the same in New York?
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:51 PM
 
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Oh my. You must not realize that California produces more food than any other state in the U.S. - by far.



California Food Facts - Production & Crops California
Yup, the problem is that when people think of California, they think of L.A. or San Francisco. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. People don't realize that both of these deeply blue states are huge agricultural producers.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:53 PM
 
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In California I have never seen a bottle of New York state wine.

Can you say the same in New York?
No, I can't. And I admit California reds are better. Actually my family makes red wine and we use California grapes. BUT yeah, if you see a New York white, try it. It is better than California (and I thought Arbor Mist, though I'd never get caught dead drinking the stuff, was national. That is made in New York.)
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:59 PM
 
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Now who is socialist? Now who relies on big government and benefits from the nanny state?

TaxProf Blog: Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
Wayyyy old news. This topic has been coming up for quite a while, I'm guessing you found the link through this site (edited for language): http://www.f***thesouth.com/

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"All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your f***ing Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a f***ing swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a s***hole," we said, but you had to have your f***ing orange juice.

The next ****wad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their *** kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal f***ing dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, mother******, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, ***hole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, ***holes, it’s f***ing our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own f***ing stop signs, ***holes.
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And so on. I believe this link has been posted before on the forum.

As to the OP, it does us no good to separate states into "red" and "blue." It's better to separate by county, some states have a good mix of political views but trend one way or another for various reasons. Keep in mind every state is not one person, but millions of different people. It would be more accurate to do individual surveys on Republicans and Democrats, and determine if each is more likely to be receiving government help.
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