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Old 10-04-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Child only policies are gone. Student policies are gone.They are being "forced" into something else.
What do you call these?

Wardenburg Health Center » Student Gold Health Insurance (http://healthcenter.colorado.edu/insurance/student-gold-for-2010-11/ - broken link)
Student Health Insurance Program at the University of Northern Colorado
Insurance - CSU Health Network Care for Body and Mind (http://health.colostate.edu/Insurance/Index.cfm - broken link)
Metro State Insurance Plans | Health Insurance | Health Center at Auraria

No one should believe all the "horror stories" out there in the media. The reports of the death of college plans have been greatly exaggerated!

Last edited by Katarina Witt; 10-04-2010 at 10:14 PM..
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:12 PM
 
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The only one's "forced" into "Obamacare" are 10 Million Americans...3.3% of the population that could afford insurance but decided to free load off others by using the ER has their personal doctor's office. Passing the costs on to us when they skip out on their bills. I don't care about their plight.
This is where your mistake is, they couldn't afford insurance before. What makes you think they can afford it now just becsue it's law? More importantly this law doesn't address costs and they could go up, what makes you think they can afford insurance that is going to cost more than the insurance they couldn't afford before?

You can't take blood from a stone and in there is no teeth to the mandate....
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What do you call these?

Wardenburg Health Center » Student Gold Health Insurance (http://healthcenter.colorado.edu/insurance/student-gold-for-2010-11/ - broken link)
Student Health Insurance Program at the University of Northern Colorado
Insurance - CSU Health Network Care for Body and Mind (http://health.colostate.edu/Insurance/Index.cfm - broken link)
Metro State Insurance Plans | Health Insurance | Health Center at Auraria

No one should believe all the "horror stories" out there in the media.
There is a new minimum under Obamacare.
Schools are seeking exemptions.

ObamaCare Threatens College Health Plans - Megan McArdle - Business - The Atlantic
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There is a new minimum under Obamacare.
Schools are seeking exemptions.

ObamaCare Threatens College Health Plans - Megan McArdle - Business - The Atlantic
Yeah, there was a whole thread about this. It looks like the reports of the death of these college plans was greatly exaggerated. I guess they either got their exemptions, or they learned how to play by the new rules. Shocking, I know, but these ins. companies don't want to lose the student business, either.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:20 PM
 
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We are in many ways a captive audience for electricity, and in similar vein have been with health care.
I don;t think it's similar at all, it's impractical to have multiple utilities and would not be conducive to lower rates but instead drive them up because of the massive infrastructure required. The insurance companies on the other hand have a monopoly because of the government for no reason at all.

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As for what coalman said--- Doctors who are in it for the bling tend not to be good doctors. Nobody cares much for sadistic dentists either.
That may be true of some but let's face it, when you're choosing a career how much you're going to make is going to priority for almost everyone.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That may be true of some but let's face it, when you're choosing a career how much you're going to make is going to priority for almost everyone.
Many PhDs go to school just as long, don't make as much.

Many other health professionals deal with the life/death stuff, don't make as much.

I don't think it's the big issue some make it out to be.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:28 PM
 
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This is where your mistake is, they couldn't afford insurance before. What makes you think they can afford it now just becsue it's law? More importantly this law doesn't address costs and they could go up, what makes you think they can afford insurance that is going to cost more than the insurance they couldn't afford before?

You can't take blood from a stone and in there is no teeth to the mandate....
Why don't you learn about the bill before spouting off?

The insurance premiums are lowered for lower incomes, totally free for the indigent.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:35 PM
 
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I don;t think it's similar at all, it's impractical to have multiple utilities and would not be conducive to lower rates but instead drive them up because of the massive infrastructure required. The insurance companies on the other hand have a monopoly because of the government for no reason at all.
HA! Monopoly! Definitely need to get rid of that, don't we? Any side of the aisle defending monopoly isn't fit for office.



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That may be true of some but let's face it, when you're choosing a career how much you're going to make is going to priority for almost everyone.
That being the case the noble professions like teaching would have gone empty since the 80's paradigm "what's in it for me?". I'm grateful for the teachers I've had and not many of them were paid well or appreciated. I appreciate them and have a love of learning that's lasted a lifetime. Underpay doctors too much I can see your point. It would be the same for teachers, and cops, and firemen. I do recall one horrible math teacher I had. He left mid school year to become an accountant. He really wasn't cut out for the job and struck me as someone who hated children. Thanks to the new teacher I did a complete turnaround in that subject but the way folks insult them with 'those that can do, those that can't teach'-- too bad they didn't have an accountant teaching them.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:56 PM
 
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Companies are dropping their coverage and just offering employees "flex dollars" to be used to put toward their own private plans. This is better because single and young people are not forced into health plans that cover services that they never use.


Not yet, but it's coming....soon.

I fully expect my company to drop any coverage for us and pay the fine to the government instead.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:10 PM
 
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The insurance premiums are lowered for lower incomes, totally free for the indigent.
...driving up the rates for others creating yet more people that can't afford it. Who pays the bill when there is no one left that can afford it?
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