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View Poll Results: If a drug is expiring in 3 hours to terminate a death row inmate
Use 5x the amount necessary to kill him - or more 9 37.50%
Use another method to kill him 9 37.50%
Wait until you acquire a fresh supply of the drug to kill him 1 4.17%
Commute his sentence to life in prison - the death penalty should be outlawed 5 20.83%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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This was clearly political, the judge was making a statement, expressing his feelings about the death penalty. they had time to execute him, but he delayed it so that the drugs would expire.

Regardless of your feeling about the death penalty, this is unfair to the victim and her family. In the 70s, this man was given the maximum penalty for his crime, and here we are 30 years later and that sentence has not been fulfilled. She was raped, then murdered, he was sentenced and his sentence has not been carried out. This is not justice, by any means.


I voted that he should be executed by another method, of course, that will never happen because of lawyers and the BS associated with them. I honestly think that a firing squad is the most humane, a single bullet, well placed will bring an instant, virtually painless death.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
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I saw Valkyrie the other night. They hanged some of the conspirators with wire.
I wouldn't lose any sleep over that.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:26 AM
 
Location: NY
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This was clearly political, the judge was making a statement, expressing his feelings about the death penalty. they had time to execute him, but he delayed it so that the drugs would expire.

Regardless of your feeling about the death penalty, this is unfair to the victim and her family. In the 70s, this man was given the maximum penalty for his crime, and here we are 30 years later and that sentence has not been fulfilled. She was raped, then murdered, he was sentenced and his sentence has not been carried out. This is not justice, by any means.


I voted that he should be executed by another method, of course, that will never happen because of lawyers and the BS associated with them. I honestly think that a firing squad is the most humane, a single bullet, well placed will bring an instant, virtually painless death.
That's why I'd like to volunteer. It would be many bullets placed in many painful places before I finally centered one in his head. Better yet, let the girl's family finish him however they see fit.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Suppose they'd given him that and it didn't kill him. You're aware, aren't you, that they might not be able to legally subject him to it a second time. In other words, he could very well walk out a free man.

Or, suppose someone sued the state for violating the Consitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment because of the ineffectiveness of the drug, which is probably a certainty. The resulting defense could cost the taxpayers millions, even if successful.

Given those possible scenarios, don't you think waiting a few more weeks is the right decision?
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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Lead never expires. Use a firing squad.
Rope doesn't expire either!!
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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lol @ the one that voted to commute it. So they'd only commute it because the drug expired?
I also voted no and agree that the death penalty should be outlawed. No one has a right to take someones life except in self defense.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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I also voted no and agree that the death penalty should be outlawed. No one has a right to take someones life except in self defense.
Especially the state.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:17 PM
 
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Rope doesn't expire either!!
Electricity doesn't, either!
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:20 AM
 
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Fry him!
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:41 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Suppose they'd given him that and it didn't kill him. You're aware, aren't you, that they might not be able to legally subject him to it a second time. In other words, he could very well walk out a free man.

Or, suppose someone sued the state for violating the Consitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment because of the ineffectiveness of the drug, which is probably a certainty. The resulting defense could cost the taxpayers millions, even if successful.

Given those possible scenarios, don't you think waiting a few more weeks is the right decision?
When you think about a drug like that expiring in the time frame of 3 hours... will all medicine/drugs lose its efficacy within 3 hours of the expiration date? isn't there some way to test the drug chemically before injecting the criminal to find out if it's potent or not? Or, couldn't someone from the California corrections department put in a phone call to the Ohio or Texas department of corrections and buy some a day or two before the execution if they knew it was expiring? They all buy the same stuff from the same manufacturer, I bet Texas and Ohio has enough juice to kill everyone on every death row in the country.

More poor planning in the state of California.

We can't do anything right in this state without some activist judge stepping in at the last minute.
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