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View Poll Results: Is Obamanomics worse than socialism?
Yes 18 52.94%
No 16 47.06%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2010, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by Kirdik View Post
I don't fear them. Socialism and Obamanomics are simply immoral.
Since all the things that Stuart Chase said would happen are in place now one would be ready to give up if he weren't fearful about where we are now. Yes Obamanomics is pure Fabian Socialism and many other countries of the world are right where we are now. The Fabians wanted worldwide socialism and we are very near it right now.

Control of all levels of government is all we need and we are very near that right now. What happens if one of the 5 justices on the Supreme Court gets mugged and killed going home some night. I can tell from the two people Obama has appointed up to now where we will go unless THEY lose control of the Senate or at least enough seats to keep THEM from giving approval to anyone he would appoint.

We are in much more trouble right now than most people can see. I hope you aren't really one of them.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:06 PM
 
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every country has some socialist programs, every country has some capitailist aspects. The question is how much? If the majority of your economy is gov spending you should probably be considered more of a socialist platform.

Best Indicator is Gov spending as % GDP


1950 23.95 %
1960 28.74
1970 31.00
1980 33.72
2000 32.56
2010 43.85%

Where will be in 2016 if Obama continues his massive government spending? Over 70% ? close to Cuba?

We are on that trajectory
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Thanks for catching my spelling error.

It’'s great to see you make such a valuable contribution to the thread.
Did you not call a poster on how he spelled socialism? I guess in your double standard it is ok for you to make a typo but not for others.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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bull crap
The government doesn't give me a choice, in many things I once had a choice, to make for myself.

I'm penalized for reaching for the American Dream.
It is getting where your penalized for thinking about the American Dream.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It is not a conspiracy. It is a plan that has been in place for the better part of a century. We just never thought it would actually happen. It is kind of like living in an area all your life. You don't notice the little things that make it change until one day when you are looking at buildings with bars or plywood nailed up over the windows and doorways.

That is what is happening to our liberty. We didn't recognize it being take piece by piece, changing the original intent of the Constitution with legislation and legal precident. We didn't recognize it until something happened that suddenly our government was unrecognizable and those elected to represent us actually turned against us and began singling out groups traditionally considered patriotic as potential threats to the national security by DSH.

We didn't recognize it before our elected representatives publically took great offense at our vocal expressions that they were in office to represent up and not their own ideology. Remember those town hall meetings a year ago?

We didn't recognize it before our representatives began throwing hundreds of billions and trillions of tax dollars into legislation they had not read, had not even written, but managed to vote upon in the form of a fill-in-the -blanks later form.

The question facing us in November is can we stop this and turn re-claim what we have allowed to be taken while we were not paying attention?
I can't rep you for this post but I can surely say that some here really don't think about what you said hard enough to know that you are so right that it makes them hurt. Great post, MOgal.
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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every country has some socialist programs, every country has some capitailist aspects. The question is how much? If the majority of your economy is gov spending you should probably be considered more of a socialist platform.

Best Indicator is Gov spending as % GDP


1950 23.95 %
1960 28.74
1970 31.00
1980 33.72
2000 32.56
2010 43.85%

Where will be in 2016 if Obama continues his massive government spending? Over 70% ? close to Cuba?

We are on that trajectory
Very well said, Joseph. We can be saved if the next election, less than 30 days away, comes out with Obama missing control of one or both houses of Congress. Many people here can't understand that but it is there to be seen by THEM if they just open their eyes an take a peek.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:14 PM
 
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and "obamanomics" is not a word .
Amazon.com: Obamanomics: How Barack Obama Is Bankrupting You and Enriching His Wall Street Friends, Corporate Lobbyists, and Union Bosses (9781441732101): Timothy P. Carney, Tom Weiner: Books

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Old 10-07-2010, 10:17 PM
 
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I say yes. At least with socialism things are spread out equally. With Obamanomics you have to be in a certain group to get your handouts
This is a ridiculous poll without any definitions. I pass on the Obama bashing fest you're trying to whip up.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Well it wasn't a word 2 years ago but now it is being used by the media so that will make it a legal word very soon.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:01 PM
 
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Newsflash: The USA already HAD socialized medicine long before Obama was elected.

Who is it you think pays for Medicare and Medicaid and Veterans care?

Say it slowly. The USA already HAD socialized medicine.

Single payer would have messed with the INSURANCE INDUSTRY.
Too late.
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