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Old 10-09-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Obama is not blaming Bush for anything, he is holding him responsible for his actions.

1) The wars could go on for several decades and when historians look back, it would still be Bush who lied to the world about Iraq having WMD's and who has the blood of thousands of soldiers, and tens of thousands of civilians on his hands.

2) Obama inherited an economic fiasco. The economy had shed over half of the total jobs lost by March of 2009 before any of his economic policies could have been enacted. That is a fact and there is no disputing that.

3) The opposition have not tried helping Obama in any way, even though his views were supported by the majority of the country (hence, what the election was for). Instead they have chose to attack him for his ethnicity, his father's country of origin, and his middle name. Guess I'm just imagining things and playing the race card though...

If an arsonist starts your house on fire, and the city sends a fireman over to extinguish it. Who should be held accountable for the damages?
I hope you remove your blinders before you get behind the wheel... You should also be careful about drinking too much Koolaide before driving...
How does one person get their facts so mixed up...? Every one of your points is FAR off base...
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Old 10-09-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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I hope you remove your blinders before you get behind the wheel... You should also be careful about drinking too much Koolaide before driving...
How does one person get their facts so mixed up...? Every one of your points is FAR off base...
You are one of those folks who wouldn't believe anything that was pro-Obama even if there was evidence for it. In your opinion, the man can do no good. It is pointless arguing with you and 70% of Republicans as words of reason fall upon deaf ears. Care to dispel my "mixed up" facts?
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Old 10-09-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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[quote=sanrene;
People don't like whining crybabies.[/QUOTE]

This is my favorite line from any thread/post from a rightie!
So what has the right been doing since November, 2008?
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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Well considering that Obama seems to be on vacation or the golf course more in 2 years than Bush did in 8, shows that he hasn't worked that much. Bush was not one of my favorites, but at least he worked!
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:05 PM
 
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well considering that obama seems to be on vacation or the golf course more in 2 years than bush did in 8, shows that he hasn't worked that much. Bush was not one of my favorites, but at least he worked!
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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Well considering that Obama seems to be on vacation or the golf course more in 2 years than Bush did in 8, shows that he hasn't worked that much. Bush was not one of my favorites, but at least he worked!

Whoops

Obama trails Bush in vacation days 120 to 65 :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: 44: Barack Obama (http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/2506288,CST-NWS-obama18.article - broken link)
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Whoops

Obama trails Bush in vacation days 120 to 65 :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: 44: Barack Obama (http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/2506288,CST-NWS-obama18.article - broken link)
Whoops!

Bush went to his ranch, he didn't go traipsing around Spain or Martha's Vineyard.

The Western WH is sufficient to run the country.
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Obama is not blaming Bush for anything, he is holding him responsible for his actions.

1) The wars could go on for several decades and when historians look back, it would still be Bush who lied to the world about Iraq having WMD's and who has the blood of thousands of soldiers, and tens of thousands of civilians on his hands.

There were no lies, unless of course you also include all those democrats and Clinton who were FOR regime change and who voted for and funded the war. And then you would have to include the UN, Europe, the Gulf States, Canada, Australia and the rest of the world who SAID he had WMD.

2) Obama inherited an economic fiasco. The economy had shed over half of the total jobs lost by March of 2009 before any of his economic policies could have been enacted. That is a fact and there is no disputing that.

The fact is, since the dems took over congress in 2007 (obama included), the debt has nearly doubled and the deficit has tripled and the UE rate is double.

3) The opposition have not tried helping Obama in any way, even though his views were supported by the majority of the country (hence, what the election was for). Instead they have chose to attack him for his ethnicity, his father's country of origin, and his middle name. Guess I'm just imagining things and playing the race card though...

Sorry, but his views were not supported by a majority. See, he ran as a moderate and once elected, he has governed as a radical leftist. A majority of Americans now say they have had enough of his spending and massive government expansion, the centerpiece which is obamacare - OPPOSED by a huge majority of the electorate BEFORE he shoved it down the throats of the country.

If an arsonist starts your house on fire, and the city sends a fireman over to extinguish it. Who should be held accountable for the damages?
Funny how you absolve obama and the dems, who were members of congress, who casts their votes for all the spending, new entitlement programs and war votes.
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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It's really a shame we have to use history and the speakers own words over and over and over to show some people the truth. But, it doesn't matter. Thier hate overrides any facts.


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


Most of these quotes were made BEFORE Bush ever came into the national political picture. So how did he force them to vote in favor?

They regret their vote today because they have no principles. They took a position, then when things weren't going good the "changed" their positions. You don't don't think politics had anything to do with it, do you?
How odd the Left conveniently forgets all the above.

And they never, ever seem to address any of the above quotes attributed to democrats.
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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How odd that right-wingers forget that Bush and his cronies hoodwinked congress, the house and most but not all Americans with their lies and fabricated WMD's. Congress believed Bush or wanted to believe him because the nation was still hurting after 9/11 and didn't want a repeat that Bush said was coming if we didn't stop Sadam. We all know now that all of that was a lie.
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