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View Poll Results: Make Drug Testing Mandatory for LI Welfare Recipients?
Yes 106 73.61%
No 38 26.39%
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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Making Drug Testing Mandatory for LI Welfare Recipients?

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This has been discussed and there's a current thread on this law being struck down.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Have you considered that perhaps the reason so many crimes (arrests) occur in the US these days is because we as a culture have criminalized more and more behaviors and activities - such as types of drug use? However, we've done this despite the fact that actual violent crime rates have dropped to the lowest levels in over 40 years.
EXACTLY RIGHT. "Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations...In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000." U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations - The New York Times

"Critics have lambasted the United States for incarcerating a large number of non-violent and victimless offenders; half of all persons incarcerated under state jurisdiction are for non-violent offenses, and 20% are incarcerated for drug offenses (in state prisons, federal prison percentages are higher)...The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world...On January 1, 2008 more than 1 in 100 adults in the United States was in prison or jail...Violent crime was not responsible for the quadrupling of the incarcerated population in the United States from 1980 to 2003....Perhaps the single greatest force behind the growth of the prison population has been the national "war on drugs." The number of incarcerated drug offenders has increased twelvefold since 1980." The sources of these statistics are found here: Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: wilkes-barre
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As long as YOU are living for free off of the taxpayers, I insist there be drug test on all welfare recipients and randoms, and while they are at it with every welfare check there should be required community service at least 20 hrs a week! I am a truck driver and must submit to drug testing before any good as well as random drug test while I am employed. This rediculous claim that the testing is against the recipients constitutional rights is retarded. It is against MY constitutional rights to be robbed of my paycheck to help support lazy, deadbeat welfare recipients. If you refuse the test you should automatically be withdrawn from the welfare program and face welfare fraud charges.
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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As long as YOU are living for free off of the taxpayers, I insist there be drug test on all welfare recipients and randoms, and while they are at it with every welfare check there should be required community service at least 20 hrs a week! I am a truck driver and must submit to drug testing before any good as well as random drug test while I am employed. This rediculous claim that the testing is against the recipients constitutional rights is retarded. It is against MY constitutional rights to be robbed of my paycheck to help support lazy, deadbeat welfare recipients. If you refuse the test you should automatically be withdrawn from the welfare program and face welfare fraud charges.

But what if their job consists of working with drugs. Many poor folks grow marijuana, a drug that more then 50% of Americans think should be legal. If they are drug tested, they are going to lose that money. Like it or not, illegal drugs are part of the economy. Its a good that has demand, and people will make money on it.

The fact is that 93% of welfare recipients tested passed in Florida. We spent more on the tests then we got back on the savings.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: California
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Drug testing is, IMO, abuot 99% stupid and anyone who "insists" upon it should be taxed up the wazoo to support the cause.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:37 AM
 
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Why only Long Island welfare recipients? Why not welfare recipients in NYC or Westchester or upstate?
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:39 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Of course but let's throw in WPA and forced sterilization.

not forced sterilization, but I would go with birth control.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:48 AM
 
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What about drug testing for a job? That's common these days....is that an invasion of privacy? No. The employer wants to make sure they are not hiring a drug addict, which is understandable, its their money. With welfare, they are taking my money....my tax dollars that I work for.....as a taxpayer, I have the right to demand that that money is being used wisely and not being handed out to a drug addict.

This is the part I'd like to figure out. It makes a lot of sense that taxpayer dollars should not be spent on drugs.

But there are many ways people obtain drugs without spending money. People often get free drugs from their boyfriend/girlfriend/drinking buddy/whatever. When I delivered pizzas, customers occasionally offered drugs as tips.

Is the objection that "welfare recipients shouldn't blow (no pun intended) taxpayer dollars on drugs" or "welfare recipients shouldn't be using drugs regardless of whether taxpayer dollars are involved"?
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Old 10-29-2011, 05:01 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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If you want my money without offering a return on investment then I should be able to dictate the conditions for receipt.


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Old 10-29-2011, 05:07 AM
 
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Any thoughts on drug testing welfare recipient's. I have been following the case in Florida and think this is not only a great idea but can not believe a judge has blocked the law. I would like to see it enacted here in PA. Most jobs require drug testing. How can the ones paying taxes be test but the state use our taxes to pay people who do not have to be tested.
Just do it!
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