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Old 07-20-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Then you admit that your post was both stupid and pointless.
No, you're trying to walk back your "moral animals" post. Especially because you then presented examples of moral relativism. You are either ignorant of, or are unable to understand, the distinction between "moral" and "moral relativism."
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Do not confuse your inability to actually communicate a coherent thought with an inability on my part to make appropriate distinctions.
We already know your shortcoming... lack of fully understanding what you post.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:23 AM
 
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clearly not survival of the fittest.
darwin's theory of evolution isn't about fitness!
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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But yet "moral" and "moral relativism" are two different terms with two different meanings.
That's why I use them in different circumstances and for different purposes. You can do the same... once you manage to figure out how they are related and what they mean.

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And I can tell by your posts you had no idea there was a distinction.
It has been years since I trusted your judgment regarding what you can or cannot "tell" by anybody's posts.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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If it's paid for by Medicaid, which is paid for by confiscating money from others and you get it merely because you exist, and requires no effort to earn the remuneration that enables one to support oneself, no. (Excluding the genuinely incapacitated.)
Now you're excluding the genuinely incapacitated from your social-darwinism ramblings? I don't think you know what you're arguing.

Of course, if you insist on looking at health care funding through the badly flawed lens of Social Darwinism, then the people who have the power to - as you put it - "confiscate" your money against your objections, well - they are clearly demonstrating superior Darwinian fitness over you.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No, you're trying to walk back your "moral animals" post.
Nonsense... you are the one who immediately ran away from that post and its point launching a long, irrelevant and ultimately error filled series of posts regarding moral relativity.

The reason we do not believe in social Darwinism is because we are moral animals. My answer is unchanged. You simply have spent the better part of a full day chasing squirrels.

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Especially because you then presented examples of moral relativism.
I did no such thing. I presented examples of moral that are simply different than yours. The fact that they are different proves that morals are relative. It doesn't suddenly change morals into something else.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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We already know your shortcoming... lack of fully understanding what you post.
LOL... you keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: North America
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Survival of the fittest as most understand it has nothing to do with natural selection when it comes to evolution. When a species evolves, it adapts, through genetics to the changes in it's environment. It allows it to survive long enough to pass the trait to its offspring.

It's a process that takes more than one generation and has nothing to do with who is stronger. It is "who can adapt"

Jesus, didn't any of you listen in biology class?
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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True - but this one does.
Maybe 150 years ago. Not so much any more.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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No, darwinian evolution is not reality "as it is". It's just a theory.
Music is just a theory, so it is not reality. That's what I told my music theory teacher.
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