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Old 10-18-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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On this forum, there are so many conservatives namely Evangelicals that endorse home schooling yet there isn't one member on this forum that is willing to admit they were home schooled. Statistically speaking, Evangelicals account for the largest percentage of home schooled students. Conservatives on this forum routinely advocate home schooling going so far as to claim it offers a superior education to that of the public schools. Yet, why is it that not one conservative member on this forum can admit he or she was home schooled? If you feel home schooling is credible and superior then why can none of you admit to being home schooled? Is it that you are lying and genuinely don't find home schooling credible and are afraid to admit that?
Typical Liberal Ignorance......So is your premise , that if you support , advocate or endorse homeschooling you must have been home schooled ?
What kind of lame questioning is this?
What are you basing this false argument on ? Did you take a poll ? What makes you believe there is a large number of Conservatives that have been home schooled?
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why would they lie? It is well known home schooling students score higher than their public school counterparts.

"They score an average of one grade level higher than P.S. students their age on national scholastic achievement tests"

"On average, home school students in grades one to four performed one grade level above their age-level public/private school peers on achievement tests."

"Home school students did quite well in 1998 on the ACT college entrance examination. They had an average ACT composite score of 22.8 which is .38 standard deviations above the national ACT average of 21.0 (ACT, 1998). This places the average home school student in the 65th percentile of all ACT test takers."
Home schooled students are a special demographic. Many studies have shown that involved parents have students who score higher on standardized tests. Home schooled kids obviously have that. This statistic is meaningless. Home schooled students who take the ACT score the above, on average. These are very "cherry-picked" kids b/c not all home schooled kids even take the test. Here in CO, all students take the ACT their junior year in high school, so you'd get very different results.

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I'd agree with that, homeschooling, more often little to no schooling back in the day was common from those going straight to work and little value was placed on education. Homeschooling seems to be more of the trend in the past 20 years or so. Most of the evangelicals went to christian schools and make their children go as well.
I doubt most evangelical parents went to Christian schools b/c they too, aside from Cathoic and Lutheran schools, are fairly new on the scene, say in the past 25 years or so.

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I am curious knowing nothing about home schooling, how do the parents get on if their child in the last two years of home schooling is taking advanced maths and physics ?
Do they get tutors in for calculus etc ?
They do lots of different things. Some of them buy curricula and learn with their kids. Some send kids to public school for some subjects. Some don't bother with those subjects.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:07 AM
 
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reasons Liberals hate home schools

1) They believe government can do a better job then home schools
Not really, but at least at government schools they aren't taught revisionist history (e.g. none of the "Christian nation" BS) and are taught legitimate science (evolution, big bang, cosmology, etc).

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2) A liberal in spite of their tolerance talk is very intolerant of people who believe in a faith base education. I suspect they would fawn all over a Muslim home school while denouncing and evangelistic home school. I also feel they would love a home school based on a student being gay and lesbian, but not one that taught morals
Right, because a gay or lesbian student/family could never be moral.

There's a difference between true morality and Christian "morals" - which basically amount to mind control and blind adherence to bronze age belief systems.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: South East
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Not really, but at least at government schools they aren't taught revisionist history (e.g. none of the "Christian nation" BS) and are taught legitimate science (evolution, big bang, cosmology, etc).



Right, because a gay or lesbian student/family could never be moral.

There's a difference between true morality and Christian "morals" - which basically amount to mind control and blind adherence to bronze age belief systems.
Why is teaching Christian nation / revisionist history BS but evolution, big bang and cosmology correct?

This is just another TYPICAL liberal, hypocritical, one-sided, BS form of thinking!!
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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I am curious knowing nothing about home schooling, how do the parents get on if their child in the last two years of home schooling is taking advanced maths and physics ?
Do they get tutors in for calculus etc ?
In many states there are home school co-ops and formal organizations, there is an immense and diverse amount of curriculum available and as here in WA state they will have classes taught by teachers brought in for different subjects such as math and science, foreign language etc that you can sign your student up to take. We could have our kids taking classes most of the day every day of the week or as few as one class a week.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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Not really, but at least at government schools they aren't taught revisionist history (e.g. none of the "Christian nation" BS) and are taught legitimate science (evolution, big bang, cosmology, etc).



Right, because a gay or lesbian student/family could never be moral.

There's a difference between true morality and Christian "morals" - which basically amount to mind control and blind adherence to bronze age belief systems.
not everyone wants their kids taught that, i think it should be taught that others think like that but to also know it is a theory of scientists to believe in evolution not a fact.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:25 PM
 
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reasons Liberals hate home schools

1) They believe government can do a better job then home schools

2) A liberal in spite of their tolerance talk is very intolerant of people who believe in a faith base education. I suspect they would fawn all over a Muslim home school while denouncing and evangelistic home school. I also feel they would love a home school based on a student being gay and lesbian, but not one that taught morals

3) There is no teachers Union with home school teachers.
Hey, that was constructive.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:42 PM
 
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Yes indeed..NCLB..lower the bar so that "no child is left behind".
Actually the main complaint amongst many is that the bar is too high.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Not really, but at least at government schools they aren't taught revisionist history (e.g. none of the "Christian nation" BS) and are taught legitimate science (evolution, big bang, cosmology, etc).



Right, because a gay or lesbian student/family could never be moral.

There's a difference between true morality and Christian "morals" - which basically amount to mind control and blind adherence to bronze age belief systems.
All history texts are revisionist.
While evolution has some science to back it the big bang theory is just a theory.
If put your faith in the big bang theory than that is your right. But it takes just as much faith to believe in a god as a creator.
Both take faith
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Old 10-18-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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Why is teaching Christian nation / revisionist history BS but evolution, big bang and cosmology correct?
You're seriously asking why teaching false history is BS? Typical Christian..

Because a quality education should deal with facts. Evolution and the big bang are facts (and please get an education before you respond with the canned "evolution is just a theory" BS).


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This is just another TYPICAL liberal, hypocritical, one-sided, BS form of thinking!!
No it's a form of thinking called BEING RATIONAL and living in REALITY. Of course, reality does have a liberal bias.
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