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Yes, I don't understand why people keep arguing that God, whom they don't believe exists, doesn't exist. Trying to convince themselves, maybe?
Let those who wish to believe, believe and those who don't believe, don't. That is part of the pursuit of happiness that our Creator endowed to us -- the free will to choose as we wish when it doesn't hurt another.
Had YOU granted me that right, I could understand you trying to rescind it because you don't agree with it. But Somebody way bigger than you granted it, and didn't grant YOU the right to take it from me.
That places us all on equal footing, don't you think?
Of all the problems and issues facing this nation the people spend 24 pages arguing about god.
Go, Amerika, Go!
Actually the argument is about the importance of words and the meaning they convey and the meaning that is erased by the removal of words from our nations foundational documents. It is all about the basics when trying to disect the seemingly more complex problems of our country. All right there in the documents of ideals upon this nation was built.
The DOI may claim to endow people with the rights of life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but God the Creator never made those rights and has nothing to do with guarantying those rights in the DOI.
So technically Obama is being correct to drop the idea that these rights in the DOI were guaranteed by God the creator.
If by referring to the creator we are meaning the creator of the DOI then endowing people with the right to Life, Liberty and pursuit of happiness may sound good on paper but in actuality its just wishful thinking for far too many..
You have that ALL wrong.
The DOI does not endow rights, they are endowed by our Creator and are inalienable.
The reference of Creator is not a reference to the author of the Declaration.
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Then why are you complaining about Obama leaving it out?
Obama does not sound very intelligent when he does that.
If he is leaving it out because he doesn't want to offend someone, to quote him, "Of course I can do that, I'm the President". (press conference, setting up the beer summit)
PS: He's just being a smart a$$.
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God doesnt endow any one with rights,if you are lucky he may endow you with life,what you do with it is up to you and lady luck.
Then what is it/who is it that gives you any rights at all? Is there no moral authority that says some things in life are inherent rights that no one may deny, simply because each individual has an inerent value that goes above and beyond what another can place on him or her?
Where do we get our inherent concept of justice? Do we just make it up as we go?
BTW, there is no "lady luck"...you're on your own.
Certainly isnt God,
Sociology and the conventions that embody the fundamental values of a group are whats responsible for any rights you may have.
That means a person's rights can be changed/removed at any time by whomever has the power. Usually, that's the elite in those kinds of societies.
Take a look around globally to see what I mean. Is that the kind of country you want to live in? I suspect it would only be desirable if one is in the elite, powerful class.
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