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Old 10-21-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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More diversion. If you have a case against Obama campaign, start a seperate thread and post the supporting evidence and any complaints filed.

The issue of this thread is not about who is out-spending who, it is about illegal and criminal campaign finance activities of organizations supporting Republican Tea Party candidates.
Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials confirmed.
washingtonpost.com

Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/politics/washingtonpost/main4556689.shtml - broken link)
Obama Accepting Untraceable Credit Card Donations


Obama Accepting Untraceable Credit Card Donations

Now can you prove that Obama did NOT violate the law? How many more sources would you like
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Karl Rove is behind multi-million dollar campaign finance scams called American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS, in violation of IRS and FEC.

Dick Durbin To IRS: Investigate Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS Nonprofit Status
funny gop uses liberal tatics and now you complain
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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funny gop uses liberal tatics and now you complain
That's how they knew to complain---they knew the tactic because they'd been using it.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Wow the Chairman of the Dem party said that!!! Stop the presses, next thing you know he will come out and say he wants Dems elected. Wow, wow, wow unbelieveable.

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Old 10-21-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Karl Rove is behind multi-million dollar campaign finance scams called American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS, in violation of IRS and FEC.

Dick Durbin To IRS: Investigate Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS Nonprofit Status

"I write to urge the Internal Revenue Service to examine the purpose and primary activities of several 501 (c)(4) organizations that appear to be in violation of the law," reads Durbin's letter to IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, as reprinted by CQ's "The Eye" blog.

oh not dick durbin

one of the most crookedest politicians in washington

Dick Durbin managed to do all right during the stock collapse. The senior Senator from Illinois and the Democrats’ number-two man in the upper chamber bailed out of the mutual funds that would shortly take a beating, moving his investments into Democratic contributor Warren Buffett’s fund, Berkshire Hathaway, just before the storm hit on Wall Street. The Chicago Sun-Times and Bloomberg report today that the timing was no coincidence:

As U.S. stock markets plummeted last September, the Senate’s No. 2 Democrat, Dick Durbin, sold more than $115,000 worth of stocks and mutual-fund shares and used much of the money to invest in Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc.
The Illinois senator’s 2008 financial disclosure statement shows he sold mutual-fund shares worth $42,696 on Sept. 19, the day after then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke urged congressional leaders in a closed meeting to craft legislation to help financially troubled banks. The same day, he bought $43,562 worth of Berkshire Hathaway’s Class B stock, the disclosure shows.
Altogether, Durbin sold investments worth $116,000 in September. By Oct. 2, he had invested $98,046 in Omaha, Neb.-based Berkshire Hathaway, the form shows.
The Standard & Poor’s 500 index plunged 4.7 percent last Sept. 15 after the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bank of America Corp.’s government-engineered takeover of Merrill Lynch & Co. By the end of October, the index had fallen 22.6 percent.


durbin should be in jail for insider trading

oh the irony
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The Tea Party organizations are raising money illegally for election campaigning by doing it under wrong IRS tax status of 501(c)(4).
10-5-2010 -- IRS Urged to Review Crossroads GPS Tax Status: 501(c)(4) Status Questioned for Anonymously Funded Attack Ad Vehicle
Oct 5, 2010 -- IRS Urged to Review Crossroads GPS Tax Status: 501(c)(4) Status Questioned for Anonymously Funded Attack Ad Vehicle

Tsks tsk tsk, you are doing it again. There is no investigation because no laws were broken. Just because some whack job fringe group "urges" the IRS to investigate, doesn't make it happen.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: NE CT
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Yes, Watergate coverup brought Nixon's downfall, illegal activity put Watergate criminals in Club Fed for awhile. If TP candidates do not stop utilizing illegal campaign financing by supporting orgs., what will happen to them?
There are no judicial convictions of TP , yet. Plenty of supporting evidence though within complaints already filed with FEC, IRS and DOJ. I have posted them on other threads dealing with specific TP organizations. Will post here on this thread too.

Come back when you have convictions. Otherwise, you are condemning people of crimes before they have been convicted in a court of law. Is that your idea of a Constitutional America? Guilty by fear or accusation? Not mine, thank you.

Please give us convictions or admit you have no proof here; the same proof you ask of others but do not supply yourself. I would call that a bit hypocritical in this context. Good luck
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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Karl Rove is behind multi-million dollar campaign finance scams called American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS, in violation of IRS and FEC.

Dick Durbin To IRS: Investigate Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS Nonprofit Status

'..."I write to urge the Internal Revenue Service to examine the purpose and primary activities of several 501 (c)(4) organizations that appear to be in violation of the law," reads Durbin's letter to IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, as reprinted by CQ's "The Eye" blog...'
Well, this does stand out to me .....

If you want to be treated as a charity, you can't be a political organization

By law, nonprofit organizations cannot have political aims as their primary purpose

American Crossroads’ last filing with the Federal Election Commission makes it clear that when Rove said “people,” he mainly meant Texas home builder Bob Perry, who donated $7 million of the $15 million that the group raised in September and early October. Perry, a prominent GOP donor best known for financing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad campaign against John Kerry in 2004, was joined also by Robert Rowling, CEO of TRT holdings (who made both a personal and a corporate donation); the Alliance Resource Group, which has interests in the Tulsa coal industry; and B. Wayne Hughes, founder and chairman of Public Storage. Together, their donations total $12 million — or more than two-thirds of Crossroads’ haul for the period.

The donations to American Crossroads’ sister organization, Crossroads GPS, were not disclosed because it is registered as a Section 501(c)(4) nonprofit. Many speculate that a greater proportion of corporate money is flowing to the group for that reason. Yet a number of companies, in addition to Alliance Resources and TRT Holdings, did donate directly to American Crossroads this quarter, including Universal Health Care, MDI Imaging and Weaver Popcorn of Indianapolis.

So follow the money to find out exactly what these donors want politically.

Universal Health Care, Inc is a Medicare Advantage Organization with a Government Contract. What does that mean if you are a Tea Party supporter who believes in less government and the free enterprise system - well that isn't a Medicare Advantage Company, that's for sure

And this really sticks out to me:

Rowling is a conservative Republican and a major donor to the party. He is also one of four billionaire backers of the conservative political action group American Crossroads, a self-described "grassroots" 527 organization that nonetheless has received 97 percent of its funding from the four billionaires and was founded by Karl Rove, former President George W. Bush's political strategist and Ed Gillespie, former Republican National Committee chairman.

Grass roots organization, my ass.
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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Well, this does stand out to me .....

If you want to be treated as a charity, you can't be a political organization

By law, nonprofit organizations cannot have political aims as their primary purpose

American Crossroads’ last filing with the Federal Election Commission makes it clear that when Rove said “people,” he mainly meant Texas home builder Bob Perry, who donated $7 million of the $15 million that the group raised in September and early October. Perry, a prominent GOP donor best known for financing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad campaign against John Kerry in 2004, was joined also by Robert Rowling, CEO of TRT holdings (who made both a personal and a corporate donation); the Alliance Resource Group, which has interests in the Tulsa coal industry; and B. Wayne Hughes, founder and chairman of Public Storage. Together, their donations total $12 million — or more than two-thirds of Crossroads’ haul for the period.

The donations to American Crossroads’ sister organization, Crossroads GPS, were not disclosed because it is registered as a Section 501(c)(4) nonprofit. Many speculate that a greater proportion of corporate money is flowing to the group for that reason. Yet a number of companies, in addition to Alliance Resources and TRT Holdings, did donate directly to American Crossroads this quarter, including Universal Health Care, MDI Imaging and Weaver Popcorn of Indianapolis.

So follow the money to find out exactly what these donors want politically.

Universal Health Care, Inc is a Medicare Advantage Organization with a Government Contract. What does that mean if you are a Tea Party supporter who believes in less government and the free enterprise system - well that isn't a Medicare Advantage Company, that's for sure

And this really sticks out to me:

Rowling is a conservative Republican and a major donor to the party. He is also one of four billionaire backers of the conservative political action group American Crossroads, a self-described "grassroots" 527 organization that nonetheless has received 97 percent of its funding from the four billionaires and was founded by Karl Rove, former President George W. Bush's political strategist and Ed Gillespie, former Republican National Committee chairman.

Grass roots organization, my ass.
Tried to rep you but apparently I have repped you too much according to CD. Gosh, you remind me of Woodward and Bernstein
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