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Old 10-22-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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You should have seen the disgusting photographs shown my 10 year old child in school as Environmental Scare Tactics - Rotting Dead Birds on a Beach, Graphic Color Photos of the Devastation of Katrina, captioned an Unnatural Disaster Caused by Global Warming. This is happening in our public schools and I think half the time parents aren't even aware - until their kids start having nightmares and freaking out if their mom tries to send a juicebox in their lunch.

I agree that many parents probably aren't aware because they TRUST the school system.

Whatever happened to the days when you taught a class by relating one message to another?

If you buy a 6 pack of juice boxes for $2.99 you have 6 servings. If you buy 64 oz of juice in a glass container and pour it into 6 oz glasses how many servings do you get? How much money do you save by using glass containers?

But why teach a kid to think on their own when you can be sent a movie to show them? Maybe it's the teachers that can't think on their own.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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I definitely feel that children should be taught how important coal is to supplying our country's energy needs, how inexpensive in terms of dollars it is to other forms of fuel.

But I also think they need to be aware of the environmental cost. Things like Centralia:
Centralia, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What effects mountain top removal mining has:


Or be aware of the risks of mining such as in Martin County:
Remembering the Martin County slurry disaster « Coal Tattoo

I grew up in western Pa... I know how important coal is to local economies and how much our country depends upon it... but shouldn't the cost... the risk also be taught?
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:31 PM
 
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But I also think they need to be aware of the environmental cost. Things like Centralia:
Centralia was indirectly caused by mining, it was common for these coal towns to use abandoned strip mining pits as a landfill before regulations started. In the case of Centralia and another town not far from me it caught on fire starting the mine fire. It's not the coal that burns but the gases in the porous rock surrounding the seam.

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What effects mountain top removal mining has:
Current regualtions require them to reclaim the land, I know there is controversy concerning this practice and I don't have enough first hand knowledge to judge it. I will tell you there is also a tax applied to every ton of coal a mine produced that is put towards reclaiming abandoned mines where the responsible party is long gone. Pennsylvania is one state that benefit substantially from this fund because there is so many sites.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Centralia was indirectly caused by mining, it was common for these coal towns to use abandoned strip mining pits as a landfill before regulations started. In the case of Centralia and another town not far from me it caught on fire starting the mine fire. It's not the coal that burns but the gases in the porous rock surrounding the seam.

Current regualtions require them to reclaim the land, I know there is controversy concerning this practice and I don't have enough first hand knowledge to judge it. I will tell you there is also a tax applied to every ton of coal a mine produced that is put towards reclaiming abandoned mines where the responsible party is long gone. Pennsylvania is one state that benefit substantially from this fund because there is so many sites.
Thanks for the info... Abandoned mines were a big problem when I grew up where I lived. I remember a shopping center that had the back half of its structure sink into the ground. When building a home, you did everything you could to try and find old maps that would show where the mines were. I still remember my Dad talking about that....

Are other states doing similar things?
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:52 PM
 
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Are other states doing similar things?
It's a federal tax and every mine pays it. It's then distributed to where it's needed most.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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I love how someone drops a link from Glenn Beck. and we're talking about partisan nutcases?

The story of stuff is based on factual occurrence. You guys have no problem with the positives of capitalism being taught to your kids but when the true and ugly side of capitalism is taught its indoctrination?

Climate change is also fact until the scientific consensus tells us otherwise. All evidence points toward human cause and thats what we should be teaching our kids.

Nowhere does it tell kids to fear juice boxes but its fair to let them know that they are not biodegradable.

The problem is that with an increase in awareness, our system of exploitation is in danger. Without the exploitation machine, many parents worry that their children might actually have to earn a leg up over the children of the exploited in the real-world.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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Public schools need to TEACH our kids ACADEMICS. Not politics. the whole global warming thing is politics pure and simple. And you wonder why our public schools are in the atrocious state they are in

has nothing to do with the current state of the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:17 PM
 
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omg is that some crazy crap or what?
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Darn, I thought that was a SNL parody almost all the way through it.

I was almost expecting a naked Will Ferrell to come out of the trees...
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:12 AM
 
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Darn, I thought that was a SNL parody almost all the way through it.

I was almost expecting a naked Will Ferrell to come out of the trees...
Yeah... some people have to be in the hospital...

I'm glad that we don't indoctrinate our kids in Central Europe like they do in Western and Eastern Europe. Anyway with all the indoctrination I didn't seen those "green" yuppies in other countries than US and UK which makes me think that there must be some genetically mental problems...
The best thing is that both US and UK are the countries with the most problems (economically and socially) in the western World while the Central Europe is Western world's economic powerhouse.
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