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Old 10-27-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Ma./Az.
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You seem to have used this thread to stereotype all liberals as raving anti gunners. Your agenda is showing. I'm a liberal and I am a collector of fine firearms and carry one pretty much everywhere. I live in Arizona and congregate with many liberals, all who are staunch 2nd Amendment advocates. I live in a rural desert area and yes I carry on my property exclusively. I also have a short barrelled shotgun(8" barrel with BATFE stamp) that is for indoor home defense and a registered, transferable, full auto 9mm(HKMP5) with a can. My firearm collection started back in the early 70s. All us F/A owners get together 3 or 4 times a year and have a hell of a good time shooting up the desert. The women bring fried chicken and potato salad and get in line to shoot the MA Deuce.

Your blanket statement concerning liberals with guns is patently wrong. A large percentage of us are armed to the teeth and know how to use them.


I'm not sure where Hawkeye's from but me being from Mass. it's very easy to make those assumptions. We're constantly fight the Anti-Gun Government here with all the restrictions they put on us responsible gun owners. We're limited to what guns we can purchase and only from certain gun manufacturers because our AG thinks she knows what's best for us! Yes, the people of Mass. keep voting them back into office too.

Take a look sometime at our gun laws and you can see why some of us can get bitter towards Liberals, but I have met and shot with some good ones too.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'm not sure where Hawkeye's from but me being from Mass. it's very easy to make those assumptions. We're constantly fight the Anti-Gun Government here with all the restrictions they put on us responsible gun owners. We're limited to what guns we can purchase and only from certain gun manufacturers because our AG thinks she knows what's best for us! Yes, the people of Mass. keep voting them back into office too.

Take a look sometime at our gun laws and you can see why some of us can get bitter towards Liberals, but I have met and shot with some good ones too.
You make a very good point and I stand corrected. Gun restrictions are regional and the gun owner is at the mercy of local elected officials. I'm lucky to live where I do and have the freedoms I have.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You make a very good point and I stand corrected. Gun restrictions are regional and the gun owner is at the mercy of local elected officials. I'm lucky to live where I do and have the freedoms I have.

And, that's exactly how the Constitution envisions it and why the Supreme Court ruled as it did in the DC case---power to the people at state and local level.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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MOHAWKX -
I, as I have stated, am a liberal when it come to politics and economics. Less so when it comes to the 2nd Amemdment and a lot less than the stereotyped city liberal when it come to defending me and mine.

I did not realize a sawed off shotgun could be legal under any conditions. I did know about full auto because a friend of mine stayed with us and brought his dealer's stock. For a while we looked like a rebel armory.

I remember the old MA Duce. We used them on the river boats.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Don't have one, don't want one.

If I lived by myself, it would be (a little) different, but as long as there is someone living here with me, I don't need to take the risk of getting shot. Crime is often committed against you be people you KNOW. I don't need to provide the criminal/potential criminal with a weapon.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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MOHAWKX -
I, as I have stated, am a liberal when it come to politics and economics. Less so when it comes to the 2nd Amemdment and a lot less than the stereotyped city liberal when it come to defending me and mine.

I did not realize a sawed off shotgun could be legal under any conditions. I did know about full auto because a friend of mine stayed with us and brought his dealer's stock. For a while we looked like a rebel armory.

I remember the old MA Duce. We used them on the river boats.
I imagine it's regulated state by state. There is a company that will take a Saiga Semi-auto and chop it down for you and jazz it up with HK sights. Takes a 10 RD mag and has an open choke. IMO, most effective home defense weapon known to man. Won't overpenetrate and kill your neighbors next door if you ever have to use it. BATFE issues a 200.00 SBS stamp. Randy Weaver should have just followed the law and got a stamp.

Ah.....yes...,.the memories. RIVRON21 out of Vung Tau. Next to Truong Ky and Tao Phung. The 75/50 over/under mounted on the Swift boat built in Pascagoola, Miss. Those were the days, Huh?
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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It was my general thought/presumption that most people do not have/own guns - -especially in a urban area (vs. farm country where I can easily assume people have guns). During multiple conversations with my neighbors over the last year or so I realized that most of them do own firearms.

Not sure if my area is an exception or if my assumptions were wrong. When I mentioned to one of my neighbors that I have none, they were extremely surprised and suggested 'I get on it.' I live in a large city, not somewhere isolated or in farm country and in a relatively safe neighborhood and owning firearms never came to my mind.

So this bring the question. Does your household owns firearms?
Do you think each household should? Do many of your neighbors/friends own firearms?

Just curious as to what people think of this.

Yes, we have firearms.
No, not every household should have one.
Yes, I know that the neighbors to the left and right of me do, other than that I'm not sure, but I do live in TN.
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Ma./Az.
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You make a very good point and I stand corrected. Gun restrictions are regional and the gun owner is at the mercy of local elected officials. I'm lucky to live where I do and have the freedoms I have.


You're lucky to live in a "Free State" but I'm sure just like Mass. and every other state you have your share of problems too. I've been trying to get out to Az. to look at housing and for vacation and will hopefully get out there after the 1st of the year.I will be bringing my carry gun,maybe we can do some shooting.
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You're lucky to live in a "Free State" but I'm sure just like Mass. and every other state you have your share of problems too. I've been trying to get out to Az. to look at housing and for vacation and will hopefully get out there after the 1st of the year.I will be bringing my carry gun,maybe we can do some shooting.
Sure, PM me when the time is right. Lot's of guys out here shoot off their back porch. I go to the town, informal range. Funny, no range marshals but you never see old appliances or broken glass on the range. People in this town are very considerate of the enviornment they have.

To stay on topic, I don't think everyone should own guns. Just like I don't think everyone should be banned from owning guns. You'll always have some on the extreme right who will abuse the right and scare the sheep with the biggest desert eagle strapped to their hip in the ice cream parlor. By the same token, you'll always have the extreme left wanting to ban all 300 million guns in the nation thinking all human, violent interaction will cease and we will live happily ever after. Neither scenario is real.
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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It was my general thought/presumption that most people do not have/own guns - -especially in a urban area (vs. farm country where I can easily assume people have guns). During multiple conversations with my neighbors over the last year or so I realized that most of them do own firearms.

Not sure if my area is an exception or if my assumptions were wrong. When I mentioned to one of my neighbors that I have none, they were extremely surprised and suggested 'I get on it.' I live in a large city, not somewhere isolated or in farm country and in a relatively safe neighborhood and owning firearms never came to my mind.

So this bring the question. Does your household owns firearms?
Do you think each household should? Do many of your neighbors/friends own firearms?

Just curious as to what people think of this.
Yes, No and some do most don't.

This liberal is a bambi killer but believes in extreme restrictions in ownership.
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