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Old 10-28-2010, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by jambo101 View Post
Or you could move up here to Canada or anywhere in the world for that matter and relax because according to some its all a socialist nanny state outside the USA where nobody works and we just sit around watching America destroy itself through uncompromising political ideology.
Big mid season tv special upcoming its called "mid term elections"
Gonna have to stock up on extra beer and chips for this show.
Better than a hockey game for fighting

I could do Canada, but it's too far from the grandkids!

Seriously, I guess I'll have to stay here and oppose those simpletons who would destroy the United States in order to "save" it.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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^^^^^^^^^^
Why than do they still scramble and die and sacrifice to come here? There are evidently many outside who still think it's worth coming too. Funny how some foreigners have a better view of the US then it's citizens do...I've been around the world a couple times and as bad as you think it is here it sucks lots worse out there................
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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The true informed Patriots?

Every crack-smoking skinhead with prison tats and a bolt action rifle, calls himself a......true informed Patriot.

Welcome to the American Militia Movement.

Steve
Don't count on the bolt action rifles...The ones I know have full autos and a key to the armory........
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Don't count on the bolt action rifles...The ones I know have full autos and a key to the armory........

Yes, they're heavily armed and enthusiastic bomb throwers, but their lack of training, organization and effective leadership will rapidly show if they're ever dumb enough to make a move to overthrow the legitimately elected government.

Between the US Army, law enforcement and heavily armed old curmudgeons who still revere the Constitution (like me), they won't last long.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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Our egocentric view as Americans is what I'm most ashamed about being an American. You are absolutely right what you say. We act like capitalism i.e. American capitalism is the best and only way to run an economy. We act like we are the only successful, hardest working people on the planet. I get sick of it. Europe has a lot to be envious about. So does many aspects of the world. We are great at a lot of things but not everything. America has changed a lot in 50 years. The America immigrants were scrambling and dying and sacrificing to come to for opportunity is not the same America that exists today.
Ashamed of America? Ashamed of what "Americans" have become, but not ashamed of the country.

I'm ashamed that our people have lost the drive to better themselves on their own, to set goals and work toward them without looking to the government to provide for them.

I'm ashamed that America now has generations that depend upon government for its existence.

I'm ashamed that America has career politicians.

I'm ashamed that Americans are so ignorant about the political process, and are so apathetic regarding voting.

I'm ashamed that the government is the largest employer in this country.

I'm ashamed that there are those who hate other Americans simply because they have more tangible assests.

I'm ashamed of Americans who feel they are entitled to a better life without having to work for it.

I'm ashamed that Americans spend more time watching mind-numbing, juvenile television programming than they do planning for their future.

I'm ashamed that Americans are so quick to blame someone/something else for their own personal bad decisions.

I'm not ashamed of America,...but I am ashamed of what Americans have become.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:15 AM
 
Location: South East
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Yep folks,...ENTITLEMENT is alive and well. People need not be productive,...they have a "right to comfortable access to the necessities that sustain and maintain life"...... Comfortable access? Well now, we wouldn't want anyone to have to break a sweat,...would we?

All you "...greedy, holier-than-thous will be, soon enough, put in your place". All you who bust your butts making a decent living, or who own a business,....get ready to give most of your assets to those who think they don't have enough "comfortable access" to things which they are "entitled".

The "greedy, holier-than-thous" aren't looking for a fight,...leftie,....but we ain't walking away from one either.
VERY WELL SAID!!!

This post is actually unbelievable to me! This person thinks, no matter what a person's actions are, they are entitled to a good life?? WOW!

Also, where are these lefties going to get their money from if the "greedy" people who actually work hard for a living are gone? Who will they have to try to take from?

People who think this way need to get a JOB and get their OWN life because I am tired of being expected to do this for them!
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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VERY WELL SAID!!!

This post is actually unbelievable to me! This person thinks, no matter what a person's actions are, they are entitled to a good life?? WOW!

Also, where are these lefties going to get their money from if the "greedy" people who actually work hard for a living are gone? Who will they have to try to take from?

People who think this way need to get a JOB and get their OWN life because I am tired of being expected to do this for them!
Amen!!

One has to wonder where this feeling of entitlement started. I'm older than dirt, but you can bet the farm it didn't start with my generation. The old philosophy of working hard, living within ones means, planning for the future, and learning from ones mistakes has gone by the wayside.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Money is a figment of your imagination. It's only worth what you "think" it's worth. It's paper and ink, backed by nothing. Not everyone buys into that line of thinking.
If money is only a figment of my imagination, why are the looters and levelers always trying to get it away from me?

Maybe that's your excuse for why you don't work harder at getting it, but don't use it for an excuse for taking the rest of mine from me. I already contribute to running the schools and hiring the police and paying the soldiers and giving away food stamps and welfare and all the rest of it. Now leave me alone to enjoy my figments.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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From what I've seen of the 60's, I just don't feel it was that divisive. After all, its the same folks who were so upset then, thats in charge now.

Not really that different after all.

But hey, what do I know, I just made the tail end of the 70's, so that was before my time
You seen the 1960's. I was a child growing up in the 1960's it was divisive and it was tranformational. Americans NEVER trusted their government as much after the 1960's and attitudes about sex, music, fashion, politics, race, drugs, and American military involvement in foreign countries totally changed. It's was the first decade that transcontinental air travel became routine, television became a pervasive part American life, and it was the beginning of the country being divided between liberals and conservatives.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Plattsburgh NY
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Yep folks,...ENTITLEMENT is alive and well. People need not be productive,...they have a "right to comfortable access to the necessities that sustain and maintain life"...... Comfortable access? Well now, we wouldn't want anyone to have to break a sweat,...would we?

All you "...greedy, holier-than-thous will be, soon enough, put in your place". All you who bust your butts making a decent living, or who own a business,....get ready to give most of your assets to those who think they don't have enough "comfortable access" to things which they are "entitled".

The "greedy, holier-than-thous" aren't looking for a fight,...leftie,....but we ain't walking away from one either.
Good try at attempting to twist my words. I never, as usual, said anything about getting anything WITHOUT working. You sound the same as any other underpaying, overworking their employees, type of person.

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You can't afford to rise up against "the evil rich" because they are funding your welfare, food stamps, HUD and free cell phones.
That I worked 25 years to put my hard earned tax dollars into. Now I am forced to take the assistance. Not my fault. Not the fault of the 15 million other unemployed people either. And by now you should realize that these 'evil rich' took low paying jobs overseas to pay even less to the workers. Reaping what one sews does not exclude one because they're wealthy. The wealthiest are ONLY reaping what they have sewn. Now complaining about the very MESS they CREATED by not being appreciative of the work Americans once had so much pride in. That's what happens when people are taken for granted.

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We need to take care of our own before even thinking about taking care of anyone else.

Politicians need to be reminded of who they work for.

If that means having a revolution for it, count me in.


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VERY WELL SAID!!!

This post is actually unbelievable to me! This person thinks, no matter what a person's actions are, they are entitled to a good life?? WOW!

Also, where are these lefties going to get their money from if the "greedy" people who actually work hard for a living are gone? Who will they have to try to take from?

People who think this way need to get a JOB and get their OWN life because I am tired of being expected to do this for them!
Someone else ADDING their own commentary trying to twist my words. Nice try.
Where will the 'greedy' get their money from when no one (abroad) wishes to do business with America anymore because of default. You know... NOT PAYING UP.

Funny thing is these businesses, in all reality, cut their nose to spite their face. Not only are they paying for 15 million Americans' assistance, they're also paying for cheap crappy labor overseas. On top of any other tariffs and taxes imposed on them by these very companies. Not to mention our own IRS. Would have been a lot easier to just raise the minimum wage three or four dollars.

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For William Marshall, president of the Progressive Policy Institute, the argument that lowering or abolishing tariffs on low-cost products will cost jobs speaks more to the need to invest in training programs for low-skilled American workers. “It’s a challenge to protectionists. It does redistribute the pattern of job creation,” he acknowledged. But the genie is already out of the bottle when it comes to globalization, he said, and companies have already moved the bulk of their labor-intensive production offshore. Leaving high tariffs on cheap imported goods isn’t going to stop them from appearing on discount and dollar-store shelves, it’s just going to penalize the consumers who buy them.
How about that. And how much longer will we be able to buy from even discount and dollar stores?

Outdated Tariff Systems Means the Poor Pay More « The Washington Independent

Everyone that is able, needs to work. No one should have to struggle for the comfortable access to the necessities that sustain and maintain life. It shouldn't be a difficulty to provide shelter, food, clothing, education, and transportation for oneself.

Remittance and Withholding Tax in China
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1.1 On March16 and December 6, 2007,China enacted the Enterprise Income Tax Law (“EIT Law”)and its implementation rules respectively, to unify the income tax levied on domestic and foreign enterprises so as to create a level playing field for all, and came into force on 1st January 2008.
Create a level playing field for all? That's funny. That explains the high unemployment in America. Note: Enacted under the Bush administration.

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1.2.1.2 Non-resident enterprises shall pay the enterprise income tax (25%) for income sourced within China derived from its establishment in China and for income sourced outside of China that is effectively connected with its establishment in China.
Non-resident enterprises without any establishment in China deriving income sourced in China and those having an establishment in China earning income sourced in China but is not effectively connected with that establishment shall pay enterprise income tax (20%) on income sourced within China.
So paying taxes to two or more countries is profitable?

There's plenty more...

Remittance and Withholding Tax in China
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