Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It goes to show you how much then unions are a rip off.
Where did the OP indicate that his friend was apart of a union? Its a pretty sad state when folks bytch about someone making low wages for a certified skill.
Where did the OP indicate that his friend was apart of a union? Its a pretty sad state when folks bytch about someone making low wages for a certified skill.
Relax and read what I was responding to. I was talking about prevailing wage. The only reason it exists is because unions negotiate for bloated pay.
2 years experience only gets you that pay. I have 15 years experience in my field, am in a union and get nowhere near that. I also had to go to school much longer than 2 years in a high school program.
okay, but like i said...he's 23 years old and has only been an electrician for 2 years. don't you think that's a bit much to pay a 23 year old with 2 years experience? $49/hour seems to like a wage you would pay an electrician with some good experience...not a 23 year old kid who's still learning.
The end game is to get this man to vote Democrat so he can keep getting jobs that pay $49 . Its a bribe , get it ?
It sounds like they have bid and received a federal contract job. Part of any bid for a federal contract states that "prevailing wage" must be paid under the Davis-Bacon Act.
The "prevailing wage" is set down by the Feds, regardless of whether he's in a union or not, and provides parity with union wages for federal contracts.
The "prevailing wage" is established by the Feds, regardless of whether he's in a union or not, and provides parity with the average wage rate for that region for that occupation.
"Wage determinations are developed based on available data showing the rates that are prevailing in a specific locality. Where a single rate is paid to a majority (more than 50%) of the workers in a classification of service employees engaged in similar work in a particular locality, that rate is determined to prevail. When information is used from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) or other surveys, statistical measurements of central tendency (median) and the average (mean) are considered reliable indicators of the prevailing rate. Which of these statistical measurements will be applied in a given case will be determined after a careful analysis of the overall survey, separate classification data, patterns existing between survey periods, and the way separate classification data interrelate. Use of the median is the general rule. However, the mean may be used in situations where, after analysis, it is determined that the median is not a reliable indicator."
U.S. Department of Labor — Wage and Hour Division (WHD) — SCA Directory of Occupations — 99740 Vending Machine Repairer Helper (http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/web/SCA_FAQ.htm - broken link)
Also, that particular contract may have already had a collective bargaining agreement to which the contractor was compelled.
That's why I love the government... they know exactly how to waste taxpayers money and they have centuries perfecting that practice... and the liberals love it...
Sounds like he is receiving this wage. If he was productive enough before this job, then he would have been earning this wage at that time.
That's the falacy conservatives and those ignorant of the good unions have done for the working man would like everyone to believe.
No company or corporation pays it's employees the salary and benefits it's does without the influence that the unions has had on employers both union and non-union shops.
He made pennies because his employer was able to low ball ,intimidate, and make sure that the employee believed he had no real work rights and had better be damn well happy with whatever peanuts he was getting.
Tell you what let's see how long it is before this guy gives up his new pay and benefits to go back to peanuts.
Let's see how much more he contributes to the business and retailers in his community and how much more he will contribute to the tax base of his community, seems like more than just this one indivisual benefits when we pay people more than peanuts.
In other words: He's being paid three times fair market value.
Let me ask you this recon. How would you feel if you went into a store to look for a widget (hypothetical object) and you saw, sitting side by side, two widgets that were exactly the same thing except one widget costs $10.00 and the other widget costs $65.00. You, being the intelligent shopper you are, choose the $10.00 widget, of course! Who would pick the 65.00 widget? Suddenly a union rep pops up from out of nowhere and says "Sorry recon, but you must choose the $65.00 widget, union rules"
Same thing.
Not necesarily, say I work on my own car (which I do) and need new front brake rotors. I know one set was made by American workers making a middle class wage in a factory where certain materials were mandated to be used, certain production and quality controls were in place which resulted in a long lasting quality part or I had the choice of buying a part for half the price manufactured in Saigon using inferior materials, little or know quality control and prone to breaking and collapsing after 100,000 miles of use...which one do you think I would purchase??
Why did the American company have such a superior product?...in large part due to the Unions.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.