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When I finished up elementary school in 1986, it was about the time where they were trying to get rid of competitive sports at that age level, the "everybody wins!" stuff, taking away any and all competitive advantage had just started.. Fortunately that didn't happen in high school. We were allowed to have teams that were allowed to win games.. But I cannot imagine what's going on in elementary schools where they can only play games where there are no losers.
It is indeed sad. I know of athletic departments that will give all participants medals because “no one is a loser.” We are crippling our children. What happened to win some, lose some?
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NJ weighs new bullying laws after Rutgers suicide (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/25/AR2010102502532.html - broken link)
NJ proposing new rules after the Clementi suicide, but honestly how would this have prevented what happened to to him given he was in college, not high school..
Will strict rules prevent kids from dealing with the realities of life, that not everyone is nice, some people are d*cks and you need to be able to handle that in the real world? What happens when they get to a job and cannot handle office politics, or the competition?
The kinds of behaviours that are done in school environments would NEVER be tolerated in an office. Can you imagine what would happen if somebody secretly videotaped another employee and put it on the internet? They would be FIRED and the employer would be on the phone talking to his attorney about how to handle the big lawsuit the victim is about to file. But in school or college, this kind of behaviour is tolerated which encourages more of it.
Agreed. Sadly, our children are now being coddled to such an extent that they will lack adequate coping skills as adults. A few years ago, my son’s school instituted a policy prohibiting teachers from using red pens to mark incorrect answers on tests, because they didn’t want to “traumatize” the students. Mind you, this was at the high school level.
While I certainly don’t condone bullying, I don’t believe enacting a law is the answer. If a child is physically attacked, it is then considered assault and battery, not simple bullying. We already have laws to protect against that.
Thats just ridiculous it really is. You are right we arent teaching them to cope. Heck my grandparents were married at 15 raising a family. Working hard. Now a days we have 25 year olds with no goals. Going around sleeping with each other , partying and doing nothing with their lives. Thinking they are entitled to something they dont have to work for. Because we hand out a trophy to anyone that plays. Not teaching them you have to work hard to win. You've got to put time in to master something. Now they think that things should be handed to them.
It is indeed sad. I know of athletic departments that will give all participants medals because “no one is a loser.” We are crippling our children. What happened to win some, lose some?
very ironic because what you are describing is "for" bullies as they are the only ones who cannot handle legitimately losing.
as for those who are stalked and assaulted, that is another issue.
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Thats just ridiculous it really is. You are right we arent teaching them to cope. Heck my grandparents were married at 15 raising a family. Working hard. Now a days we have 25 year olds with no goals. Going around sleeping with each other , partying and doing nothing with their lives. Thinking they are entitled to something they dont have to work for. Because we hand out a trophy to anyone that plays. Not teaching them you have to work hard to win. You've got to put time in to master something. Now they think that things should be handed to them.
We are doing such an injustice to our children.
and again, this doesn't have anything to do with bullying.
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The kinds of behaviours that are done in school environments would NEVER be tolerated in an office. Can you imagine what would happen if somebody secretly videotaped another employee and put it on the internet? They would be FIRED and the employer would be on the phone talking to his attorney about how to handle the big lawsuit the victim is about to file. But in school or college, this kind of behaviour is tolerated which encourages more of it.
these responses are surreal, aren't they? there is constant talk about the real world and most all of the respondents can't think critically or logically and apparently unaware of how the adult world works!
The kinds of behaviours that are done in school environments would NEVER be tolerated in an office. Can you imagine what would happen if somebody secretly videotaped another employee and put it on the internet? They would be FIRED and the employer would be on the phone talking to his attorney about how to handle the big lawsuit the victim is about to file. But in school or college, this kind of behaviour is tolerated which encourages more of it.
There's a HUGE difference between your workplace and where you live.
The Ravi guy filmed in his OWN room, where he lives, and has a right to be at all times becaues he pays rent for it. It was not his employer. The situation is completely different.
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right. if and when any of you or your loved ones are assaulted or hurt, do NOT go running to the law for recourse. that includes, traffic accidents or any myriad situations that could come up that would end up with this result.
you should know to be able to handle it on your own. being an adult would make it even more your responsiblity. just "deal" with it. maybe go and beat them up or use some type of revenge. that'll teach'em. lmao
That is why I like the gun laws here. If somebody runs into your car, just shoot them dead right there and settle it!
There's a HUGE difference between your workplace and where you live.
The Ravi guy filmed in his OWN room, where he lives, and has a right to be at all times becaues he pays rent for it. It was not his employer. The situation is completely different.
this is getting more surreal by the minute. you are WRONG. he did not have the right to secretly tape what his roommate was doing and then expose it. that's invasion of privacy!
really, there is this constant preaching and boasting about knowing and living in the adult world and you don't even know the laws or right levels of conduct!
this is getting more surreal by the minute. you are WRONG. he did not have the right to secretly tape what his roommate was doing and then expose it. that's invasion of privacy!
really, there is this constant preaching and boasting about knowing and living in the adult world and you don't even know the laws or right levels of conduct!
Would it have been an invasion of privacy had he been in the room and then posted on face book that "my roomate, jim, is having sex with some guy!". or in your mind, he has no right to be in his own room and report what happens in his room?
You were trying to compare someone's abode, with their workplace, which is a COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY different situation.
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