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I really don't like the bully menatility of the right. First you say "no compromise" then turn around and say Clinton smartened up because he compromised. So it's okay for the left to compromise but not the right? Any time a Democrat fights back against the bullying from the right, they are accused of being divisive among other things. The right sure does a good job at alienating people that do not agree with them. America is far too diverse and complex to just disregard people unlike you. This will not work in favor of the GOP.
And the Left didn't have a bully mentality during their 2 year run ?
Obamacare got shoved down America's throat and Congress didn't even know what was in the bill.
Cap&Trade got passed by the House and as each Dem voted they thanked the speaker for the extra money they got for their pet projects.
Please..both sides are playing bully once they get some power to wield.
Clinton and the Republicans eventually compromised and it worked out in Clinton's favor. Hopefully Obama will be as smart and realize the Republicans are not his "enemy".
The Dems are gonna take a country butt whooping tonight. Not from Republicans, from Americans. The whining is to be expected but it won't change the outcome. I'm anxious to see if Harry Reid gets the boot.
Again: explain to me WHY I should pay for ANY of your healthcare. It's not reform, it's a form of socialized medicine.
Simple question: Why should I go to work, 70+ hours a week, so the government can take part of my paycheck, and give it to you, for your healthcare?
Give it up buddy! She'll never answer a common sense question like that one! They think we all one kumbaya singing faimly..Never happen! One day the Human nature in her/them will take over and they'll take care of their own before the go out of the way to help anyone else........
Where were you when I was protesting Bush excessive spending
Bushs "excessive spending" totalled about $300B a year until Democrats took over congress and QUADRUPLED it.. Which is larger $300B or $1.3T? Of course you also ignore that THEY WERE PROTESTING.. Do you not recall them marching down Wall Street objecting to the bailouts UNDER BUSH? Short memory span also I see..
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of our American BLOOD & TREASURE to destroy two countries and their citizens, men women & children?
Waaa, waaa, strawman argument.. When you have nothing else of substance, just make things up and rant away.. Go for it.. I expect little else.. You guys have a tendancy to forget that DEMOCRATS voted for war and FUNDED THEM...
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Yet entitlement programs for the American poor, unemployed, disabled and seniors are scorned by GOP.
Tell me where entitlement programs are in the constitution. ooh god no, you mgiht quote "for the people, by the people" to me again.. which of course was NOT in the Constitution..
Tell me ONE part of the Constituion which authorized the federal government to take from A and give to B..
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Republican Tea Party shall reap what it sows.
I say they are doing rather well today.. It appears Democrats are reaping what they sow.. The hatred, the lies, the ramming of bills no one wants, the you got power so ********* to everyone attitude, well paybacks a B... You want to support a party that acted like crybabies while they passed every darn bill they wanted then expect the american people to get tired of hearing how a party who holds a majority of everything cant get anything done..
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President Obama already held out his olive branch across the aisle and Republican Party knocked it away with gridlock for two years.
Give me some examples.. Some ACTION examples, not words... Can you give ONE example of this taking place? Republicans COULDNT cause gridlock.. but yet you guys stand here and whine and moan about the impossible..
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Bill Clinton should have vetoed when Republican Congress passed NAFTA, then it would have worked out well.
Yeah cause we all know that because Clinton signed NAFTA, wages here have dropped, and mexicans are going back to Mexico because thats where the jobs are...
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I hope President Obama learned from Clinton's mistake of not using his Constitutional veto powers, because the overwhelming majority of Americans voted him into the Oval Office for progress, not gridlock.
No, the majority of americans voted him into office because they didnt like the progress. Remember all of the complaints about the wars, the patriot act, the deficits, the stimulus, TARP.. They WANTED gridlock, or at the very lease programs that WORKED.. Not massive failed programs that had no chance to succeeed...
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"Kill the bill" was the GOP leaders' chant.
Its your responsibility to kill bad bills.. But keep whining while bills got passed about not getting more.
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GOP wanted no healthcare reform for the American people at all, just more concessions for corporate insurance companies.
More lies.. The corporate insurance companies supported OBAMA, not the GOP.. The GOP wanted to kill the bill because its BAD.. it INCREASES costs, it INCREASES liabilities, it increases taxes, its unconstitution and it will be thrown out..
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Again, another case of the bully mentality where the bully gets upset when someone actually stand up to him. Just because he speaks on it doesn't make him hateful or any more partisan than the Republicans who have a history of using smear campaigns, fear and intimidation to get what they want.
Again: explain to me WHY I should pay for ANY of your healthcare. It's not reform, it's a form of socialized medicine.
Simple question: Why should I go to work, 70+ hours a week, so the government can take part of my paycheck, and give it to you, for your healthcare?
These people think the healthcare bill didnt go far enough because it involves people paying a tax. They were promised FREE care.. and now they are whining because they didnt get more welfare..
Again: explain to me WHY I should pay for ANY of your healthcare. It's not reform, it's a form of socialized medicine.
Simple question: Why should I go to work, 70+ hours a week, so the government can take part of my paycheck, and give it to you, for your healthcare?
Why should I pay for your K-12 schools? Why should I pay for your public universities? Why should I pay for your libraries? It's a form of socialized education.
Why should I pay for your roads, highways, public buses and trains? It's a form of socialized transportation.
Why should I pay for your fire fighters? It's a form of socialized... ummm... fire fighting!
America has been overrun with socialists, communists, and facists since the 1820's and it's time we put a stop to it.
Why should I pay for your K-12 schools? Why should I pay for your public universities? Why should I pay for your libraries? It's a form of socialized education.
Why should I pay for your roads, highways, public buses and trains? It's a form of socialized transportation.
Why should I pay for your fire fighters? It's a form of socialized... ummm... fire fighting!
America has been overrun with socialists, communists, and facists since the 1820's and it's time we put a stop to it.
Great answer, not. You still didn't answer the question and neither will she. Simple answer: Liberals want everyone else to pay for what they want. They want to share the costs with everyone else, so they don't have to work as hard. That is the bottom line.
The rest of us work 70+ hours a week, pay for our own healthcare, childcare, etc. We don't expect everyone else to pay our way; we pay our own.
The only things the government should be involved in is national defense, internal public safety, roads, etc. For those issues, I have no problem paying taxes on. I have problems paying for your kids education, healthcare, childcare, etc. You had em, you pay for em. Can't afford it? Simple, don't have them. Simple fix and solution. Guess what? It works too.
The only things the government should be involved in is national defense, internal public safety, roads, etc. For those issues, I have no problem paying taxes on. I have problems paying for your kids education, healthcare, childcare, etc. You had em, you pay for em. Can't afford it? Simple, don't have them. Simple fix and solution. Guess what? It works too.
Why roads? I don't use your roads. Why should I pay for your roads? If you can't afford your own roads, don't use them.
And why should I pay for your fire fighters? I don't use them. I don't see why I should pay for them. And guess what? If you can't afford them, then don't use them.
The reason we now have publicly funded roads and publicly funded fire fighters is because there are indirect benefits to society as a whole.
Same with health care. If someone goes to the ER, society as a whole indirectly benefits from his well being. He gets healthier quicker, gets back on the job faster, and is able to contribute to society quicker. Furthermore, better preventative medicine not only reduces illness time, but also better prevents outbreaks of disease.
You may say that some of these patients may not be contributing to society and some of these patients probably aren't. So could I make the counter argument that fire fighters should let a house burn down if its residents aren't contributing to society? If I can, well, why not privatize fire fighting (like we used to)?
GOP has two choices florida.bob: compromise or gridlock
Which actions Republican Party will manifest will determine the GOP future survival or extinction as a party.
Really? Why don't the democrats have to compromise? The left always talks about "compromise" but what they really mean is "you do it our way".
Tonight it looks like the democrats are the ones on the way to extinction as a party, not the Republicans.
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