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LOL, sure no problem. Right after you pay back all the services that you used and tax endowed business' that you've used b/c you still have a job and health care and are not homeless and w/out, simply because of the spending that PRESIDENT Obama have done to rescue us from the abyss of the previous administration and the recklessness of those who supported them in the last 2 years.
I was employed, a home owner and had healthcare before Obama was elected and that hasn't changed despite Obama's attempts to "fix" that for me. I paid my fair share plus some in taxes towards those services you're crying about.
Moderate. Meaning I can see both sides of an issue.
Do you think for a minute that the tea heads would stand for their local taxes jumping up to pay for said services on a state or local level? I hear tea heads grumble about paying local taxes to support schools, becuase thier grown kids don't need said said services.
Gads! they grumble about the Federal Government takeover of Medicare.
My point is to put up or shut up. Say no to Medicare and Social Security and I might respect their POV.
You clearly don't know anything about people who support the Tea Party, you sound like a very uninformed typical liberal trying to bash people who you don't understand.
Moderate. Meaning I can see both sides of an issue.
Do you think for a minute that the tea heads would stand for their local taxes jumping up to pay for said services on a state or local level? I hear tea heads grumble about paying local taxes to support schools, becuase thier grown kids don't need said said services.
Gads! they grumble about the Federal Government takeover of Medicare.
My point is to put up or shut up. Say no to Medicare and Social Security and I might respect their POV.
People have been forced to pay into Social Security for years on the promise that money would be available to them upon retirement. How can you reasonably suggest they walk away from the money they've invested into the program?
I'd suggest your choice to refer to TEA Party members as "teaheads" seriously calls your objectivity into question.
People are already paying local taxes to support local services.
You clearly don't know anything about people who support the Tea Party, you sound like a very uninformed typical liberal trying to bash people who you don't understand.
A Republican Liberal
Nice try.
Strawman- Liberal. ???
I am a person who thinks. The tea heads just want to get the Negro out of the oval office and cut taxes to the point that even Social Security and Medicare cease to exist. Now if the Tea heads will say no to SS and Medicare then I will will say OK.
Then how come people vote NO on nearly every local tax proposition?
Even to support schools, fire and police?
Because human nature compels people to want as much as they can have for as little as they can pay.
The crumbling economy under massive debt as a result of unrestrained, out of control, unconstitutional federal spending also contributes to people's desire to hang on to every available dime.
You claim you're a Republican, hence at least marginally conservative. Is it really that difficult to comprehend a groundswell of individuals that believe their tax dollars are better spent locally than redistributed by an ever growing federal government?
Because human nature compels people to want as much as they can have for as little as they can pay.
The crumbling economy under massive debt as a result of unrestrained, out of control, unconstitutional federal spending also contributes to people's desire to hang on to every available dime.
You claim you're a Republican, hence at least marginally conservative. Is it really that difficult to comprehend a groundswell of individuals that believe their tax dollars are better spent locally than redistributed by an ever growing federal government?
What I see.
Spending on what I like: Good
Spending on what I don't like: Bad
Tea Party: I Just want to keep my money ( not share for the greater good) and could care less about people and issues that don't affect me. But come retirement time, sign me up for SS and Medicare. I guess in your opinion SS and Medicare are unconstitutional.
(and BTW I resent your term "claim to be a Republican".) Could it be that I am not a true Scotsman, because I like sugar in my coffee? (Goggle it if you are scratching your head)
Tea Party: I Just want to keep my money ( not share for the greater good) and could care less about people and issues that don't affect me. But come retirement time, sign me up for SS and Medicare. I guess in your opinion SS and Medicare are unconstitutional.
(and BTW I resent your term "claim to be a Republican".) Could it be that I am not a true Scotsman, because I like sugar in my coffee? (Goggle it if you are scratching your head)
Resent all you like. I'm unamused with your "teaheads" label. If you choose to engage in derogatory labeling don't be surprised if you receive a less than tactful reply.
You choose to call yourself a Republican. From what I can see from the tone of your posts RINO would be a more accurate description.
You've chosen to ignore the fact that you assign federal responsibility and oversight to numerous areas that are under state and local jurisdiction in your original post. You also opted to deflect rather than address my earlier response to your Social Security assertions. From what I've seen so far your complaints have more to do with hyperbole than substance.
Like Bush? Big Govenment paid on credit. Deficit spending to the tune of adding $8T to the national debt in 8 years.
Or maybe being able to see thru the Ditto Head mindset of the tea party types doesn't sit well with you.
Maybe a thinking Moderate bothers you?
Anyway, I though the OP would be thought provoking and it did provoke.
Yes, it did definitely provoke.
As far as the Ditto Head mindset from what I've seen it's a minority at best. As a Libertarian I have little if any use for the Limbaugh mentality. However, you'll get no argument from me if your claim is that Limbaugh, Hannity, and others of their ilk would love to co-opt the TEA Party to further their own agendas.
Regarding Bush I voted against him both times. In point of fact I'd argue the excesses of the Bush administration were the genesis of the TEA Party.
Sorry, I can still see nothing moderate in claiming numerous state responsibilities should be handled by the federal government. I'll add that your assertion that federal government should have the final word in all things regardless of the Constitutionality of those claims is sadly in keeping with views I've heard expressed by scores of other government employees.
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I guess in your opinion SS and Medicare are unconstitutional. 
(Goggle it if you are scratching your head)
