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Old 11-04-2010, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And did it concern you that Obamma had NO experience/qualifications to be President? A community organizer with an incredibly radical upbringing?? He is in over his head and our country is literally paying for it.
The Presidency is a unique office. There isn't another like it in all the world.

Consequently, what "experience" can one bring to the job, unless, like Grover Cleveland, you've been there before?

By that standard, the people MOST qualified for the job are sitting President's running for a second term. Will you vote for Obama next time based upon his experience?

I didn't think so.

 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:19 AM
 
Location: South East
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The Presidency is a unique office. There isn't another like it in all the world.

Consequently, what "experience" can one bring to the job, unless, like Grover Cleveland, you've been there before?

By that standard, the people MOST qualified for the job are sitting President's running for a second term. Will you vote for Obama next time based upon his experience?

I didn't think so.

Let me be real clear in answering your question: NO!
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:23 AM
 
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And is your post factual? Or just strong opinion? Your opinion is that the Republicans will do anything to not have Obama re-elected.
It's not an opinion, it's a fact. R leaders have stated as much themselves and Rs in Congress have been proving their disinterest in helping the country and their passionate interest in obstructing recovery over the last two years. The incessant onslaught of propaganda from the GOP's media mouthpieces proves it too. How is this hard to recognize?
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I could just as easily say that the Democrats will do anything to make sure Obama is re-elected.
Not really, since even in this midterm many Ds in Congress abandoned the president to try to save their jobs.
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One is just as true as the other...both opinions.

Asking if he 'gets it' is a legitimate question in light of the elections results. Does he understand that people took to the polls because they don't like his policies..don't want his agenda? To those who feel the answer is 'no' (including myself), feelings of superiority and arrogance on his part help explain how he doesn't get it.
He's said on a number of occasions for at least a year that he knows people mistrust what he's trying to accomplish for them. It *is* his fault for not figuring out how to communicate with the R base and not getting the message from the town halls, and not presenting the various projects in complete transparency: for example, the health ins reform act should have been broken down practically line by line and word by word on a website so people could digest it better and quickly and easily access any part and any definition, an interactive Q&A section, even scheduled live chats with various author of it and congressional opponents of it. A timeline of the many town halls on it and a breakdown of the various "alternative proposals" offered and what became of them and why-- said breakdown approved by the proposals' authors -- would dispel the cherished lie that it was "shoved down our throats."

It's amazing to me how so many right wingers see Obama as arrogant. I think a more "traditional" president doing the exact same things he's doing would be seen as confident, positive and ahead of the game.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:23 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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No, he doesn't 'get it'. He's an idiot. He will not be deterred from his plan to "fundamentally transform" America. He hates it. He is a Marxist and a socialist through and through. That is all he knows. That is how he was raised.

He doesn't 'get' that government does not create jobs. Free market capitalism does. A co-founder of Home Depot put it this way the other day on Cavuto: Job creation follows capital investment. I don't think it could be put any more clearly. And capital investment isn't going to happen when people are fearful of their government stealing their wealth. That is why there are no jobs. Nobody is taking any risks.

But his policies for big government are certainly a huge reason for Tuesdays results as well. Over regulation, over taxation (and that hasn't even kicked in yet), intrusion by governmemnt into every aspect of our lives, including our bank accounts, 401k's and IRA's, telling us what foods we can and cannot eat, etc., etc. That isn't America, and people know it. They have had enough. And I think shoving Obamacare down our throats when we sent them a clear message that we didn't want it, and then finding out what was hidden in that package, was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Are you listening, libs?

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Old 11-04-2010, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Let me be real clear in answering your question: NO!

But...but...but, I thought you wanted someone with experience in the office? It would be hard to make the case that after 4 years, he doesn't have Presidential experience!

Come on..admit it. He could be Jesus Christ himself and you STILL wouldn't vote him.

Which, of course, proves my point about this election being about Obama personally, not his policies.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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A co-founder of Home Depot put it this way the other day on Cavuto: Job creation follows capital investment. I don't think it could be put any more clearly.
More clearly, but more incorrect too.

Job creation follows demand, not investment. Nobody is going to invest in opening new businesses or expanding existing ones unless there is an increased demand for what they're selling.

That's the fallacy of trickle down economics. Give the business owners all the tax breaks you want, but when they've got plants sitting idle now, all they'll do with that money is order another yacht or invest it in the stock market, making themselves even richer. How do you think we got to this horrendous divide between the haves and have nots?

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But his policies for big government are certainly a huge reason for Tuesdays results as well. Over regulation, over taxation (and that hasn't even kicked in yet), intrusion by governmemnt into every aspect of our lives, including our bank accounts, 401k's and IRA's, telling us what foods we can and cannot eat, etc., etc.

Are you listening, libs?

If you really think all of that is a result of just Obama and the Democrats, you weren't paying attention when the GOP had control of the government for 6 years.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:33 AM
 
Location: South East
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But...but...but, I thought you wanted someone with experience in the office? It would be hard to make the case that after 4 years, he doesn't have Presidential experience!

Come on..admit it. He could be Jesus Christ himself and you STILL wouldn't vote him.

Which, of course, proves my point about this election being about Obama personally, not his policies.

No...I never quoted experience, I was replying to another post which was talking about the new reps in the house having no experience.

However, you are CORRECT!! If Obummer was Christ himself, I still would not vote for him. But it is not just about him personally, I am also adamantly opposed to his policies. Let me re-state that...I am 100% opposed to his socialistic policies.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:37 AM
 
Location: South East
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No, he doesn't 'get it'. He's an idiot. He will not be deterred from his plan to "fundamentally transform" America. He hates it. He is a Marxist and a socialist through and through. That is all he knows. That is how he was raised.

He doesn't 'get' that government does not create jobs. Free market capitalism does. A co-founder of Home Depot put it this way the other day on Cavuto: Job creation follows capital investment. I don't think it could be put any more clearly. And capital investment isn't going to happen when people are fearful of their government stealing their wealth. That is why there are no jobs. Nobody is taking any risks.

But his policies for big government are certainly a huge reason for Tuesdays results as well. Over regulation, over taxation (and that hasn't even kicked in yet), intrusion by governmemnt into every aspect of our lives, including our bank accounts, 401k's and IRA's, telling us what foods we can and cannot eat, etc., etc. That isn't America, and people know it. They have had enough. And I think shoving Obamacare down our throats when we sent them a clear message that we didn't want it, and then finding out what was hidden in that package, was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Are you listening, libs?

 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:42 AM
 
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No, he doesn't 'get it'. He's an idiot. He will not be deterred from his plant to "fundamentally transform" America. He hates it.

He doesn't 'get' that government does not create jobs. Free market capitalism does. A co-founder of Home Depot put it this way the other day on Cavuto: Job creation follows capital investment. I don't think it could be put any more clearly.
The interest rates can't go any lower. Business have all sorts of tax break enticements to start hiring. The auto industry was rescued and a million jobs saved as a result. Obama works to enforce trade agreements that benefit the US. What exactly do you and the co-founder of Home Depot believe the federal government is able to do?

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But his policies for big government are certainly a huge reason for Tuesdays results as well. Over regulation,
do you mean regulating hedge funds and derivative trading? Have you been told that's bad?
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over taxation (and that hasn't even kicked in yet),
I thought the Tea Party began before Obama took office. What overtaxation do you mean, that hasn't kicked in yet but is going to any minute now?
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intrusion by governmemnt into every aspect of our lives, including our bank accounts, 401k's and IRA's,
"R bonds"? Whatever happened to that idea?
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telling us what foods we can and cannot eat, etc., etc.
? Eat whatever you want. Your insurance probably offers expanded preventive care checks now with no co-pay.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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He talked about HC endlessly, repeatedly, before and after the vote. 50 speeches, pressers, interviews.

There was no communication problem - and no, he doesn't "get" that his policies, especially obamacare and the way it was passed was the driving force of this election.

His arrogance and ego will not allow him to admit this.
Exactly right. It goes right over his head. He cannot believe that people don't want what he is selling.
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