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Old 11-04-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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The republicans outspent the Dem's 2 to 1 on the midterms, most of it with corporate cash. Given the financial situation, it's not surprising that they won big, but it's even more surprising that they still couldn't elect a number of their major tea party front runners, like Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Linda McMahon, etc. Still think this isn't a big party, republican controlled, movement? Think again...and now they are beholden to the "money men"...it's sad.

Conservatives outspent liberals 2-1 in elections - USATODAY.com
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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Hardly. Corporate America owns holds the reigns of legislative power, whichever side of the aisle. The Tea Party was very successful in getting some real Conservatives elected but those are nowhere near the majority in Congress. There are still a bunch of Progressives, Dems and RINOs alike, that need to be taken to the woodshed by the Tea Party movement.

This thread smear attempt is a FAIL. I suspect the OP is still eating post-election sour grapes. The real Tea Party movement started with Ron Paul, who is obviously, not owned by any part of corporate America.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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But, but, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin said it was completely grassroots and not partisan
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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Not true again.. The totals exclude $455M in slush fund spending by private enterprises not subject to reporting spending on elections. Groups like UNIONS...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/340161 (broken link)

Overall, outside groups have spent a record $455 million this campaign cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington. As much as $110 million of that spending is undisclosed, affecting 168 congressional races, according to the Sunlight Foundation.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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Telling the truth--that the Republicans/corporate funders spent 187 million dollars to elect tea party members (up from 19.6 million in 2006--almost 10x the amount normally spent) is a smear? So now telling the truth is a SMEAR to the tea party? I thought they were supposed to be about government being accountable to the people? Isn't telling the truth part of being accountable, or have the rules suddenly changed?
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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Telling the truth--that the Republicans/corporate funders spent 187 million dollars to elect tea party members (up from 19.6 million in 2006--almost 10x the amount normally spent) is a smear? So now telling the truth is a SMEAR to the tea party? I thought they were supposed to be about government being accountable to the people? Isn't telling the truth part of being accountable, or have the rules suddenly changed?
Much of that money came through Dick Armey/Freedomworks you can't separate them from Republikorp
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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I thought they were supposed to be about government being accountable to the people? Isn't telling the truth part of being accountable, or have the rules suddenly changed?
People spending THEIR own money, and not governments money, is indeed being accountable for THEIR own money.. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other..
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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And Dems were all happy and bragging about how much money Obama raised in 2008, and could have cared less that he did not disclose his donors. Or that he went back on his promise to run on public financing.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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I absolutely think we need comprehensive finance reform--you won't get a disagreement out of me on that one.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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The republicans outspent the Dem's 2 to 1 on the midterms, most of it with corporate cash. Given the financial situation, it's not surprising that they won big, but it's even more surprising that they still couldn't elect a number of their major tea party front runners, like Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Linda McMahon, etc. Still think this isn't a big party, republican controlled, movement? Think again...and now they are beholden to the "money men"...it's sad.

Conservatives outspent liberals 2-1 in elections - USATODAY.com
Actually I don't think it is a Republican controlled movement, only that in most cases it is a Republican supported movement and it was money that paid off.

It is no secret that the Tea Party is well funded by a variety of corporate and ideological groups, as it could never have made it this far without such funding. It didn't give them the Senate but it did give them the House and the House has powers of impeachment, which to the ideologically driven is far more important than governing.

Keep in mind how much was spent on investigating Clinton compared to what was spent on the 9-11 commission, and you have your answer.

I agree that there needs to be total transparency in campaign financing and in politics in general, but the rules what they are now is what folks should be most focused on. Its hard to blame Republicans for taking advantage of the current laws to their advantage, and if anything it seems a bit of sour grapes on behalf of Democrats for not doing the same.

Its kind of like back during the Bush administration when I would warn people about the consolidation of powers into the Executive Branch and was scoffed at. My point was that one day an oppositional party will hold that office will all those powers and then your attitudes will change. Its the system that needs to be fixed, not those taking advantage of what the system allows.
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