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Old 11-11-2010, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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California went its own way - latimes.com

Maybe Marco Rubio can pull more Latinos into the Republican Party, but overall, it's going to be an uphill battle to make the Republican Party less white.
What a racist and demeaning thing to say.

 
Old 11-11-2010, 10:36 AM
 
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From a political standpoint he'll care and hell care a lot. Every Republican presidential campaign since 1964 as been run on the Southern Strategy. The Southern Strategy is predicated on appealing to White Conservative Christian Americans and the values they espouse. Some of these people WILL NOT vote for a non-White American. A conservative presidential can't count on much support from the West Coast or Northeast. Conservative presidential candidates build there base in the South and Mountain West and then have to be able to appeal to voters in the Midwest to have a shot at the presidency.
I don't think that he has that much to worry about. He won in the state of Florida, didn't he? The people in the panhandle of Florida voted for him. That's no different than Alabama or Georgia. In other words, its the deep south.

I'm speculating that the only Hispanics who voted for him in large numbers were Cuban Americans, because other Hispanics and Cuban Americans don't generally don't see eye-to-eye, despite the mainstream media's insistence on creating the myth of the "latino vote," as if all "latinos" thought alike.

I think that its also pretty safe to say that Afro-Americans didn't vote for him in large numbers either. They probably voted for Meeks.

That means that the people who voted for Rubio were white Americans and Cubans. Cuban Americans are a minority in the state of Florida. Rubio won with large margins. Can we assume that white Americans [many with Southern values] voted for him? I think that its a safe assumption.
 
Old 11-11-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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I don't think that he has that much to worry about. He won in the state of Florida, didn't he? The people in the panhandle of Florida voted for him. That's no different than Alabama or Georgia. In other words, its the deep south.

I'm speculating that the only Hispanics who voted for him in large numbers were Cuban Americans, because other Hispanics and Cuban Americans don't generally don't see eye-to-eye, despite the mainstream media's insistence on creating the myth of the "latino vote," as if all "latinos" thought alike.

I think that its also pretty safe to say that Afro-Americans didn't vote for him in large numbers either. They probably voted for Meeks.

That means that the people who voted for Rubio were white Americans and Cubans. Cuban Americans are a minority in the state of Florida. Rubio won with large margins. Can we assume that white Americans [many with Southern values] voted for him? I think that its a safe assumption.
It's one thing to say that White Americans in Florida will vote for him. It's another to say that White Americans in Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, or Texas will vote for him. A Republican HAS TO do well in the South in order to be a viable candidate. Also in order to get the Republican Presidential Nomination Rubio win not be running against one White candidate like he did in Florida with Charlie Crist he'll be running against several. In order to get more of the White vote hell have to swing harder to the right and the harder he goes to the right the less likely he is to appeal to moderate voters. That puts him in the position of winning the battle, the Republican nomination but losing the war, the actual presidential election.
 
Old 11-11-2010, 12:25 PM
 
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The problem with Republicans is that they make their appeal to Americans, regardless of gender, race or national origin. Dems, on the other hand, are intent on balkanizing the country by appealing to specific groups. To the extent that the Dems succeed we fracture as a nation.
The Republicans play identity politics too. If you don't think so you are kidding yourself.


USATODAY.com - GOP: 'We were wrong' to play racial politics

When Rand Paul says he wants to repeal 14th Amendment that is NOT something the appeals to Black Americans and other people of color who have faced discrimination.

When Sarah Palin defends Dr. Laura right to the "N" word under the First Amendment but she doesn't say anything about using the word may not have been the best choice at the time, that does NOT appeal to Black Americans. When no other Conservative or Republican leader in the country speaks out against incidents like Dr. Laura using the "N' word the silence is deafening to Black Americans.
 
Old 11-11-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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The Republicans play identity politics too. If you don't think so you are kidding yourself.


USATODAY.com - GOP: 'We were wrong' to play racial politics

When Rand Paul says he wants to repeal 14th Amendment that is NOT something the appeals to Black Americans and other people of color who have faced discrimination.

When Sarah Palin defends Dr. Laura right to the "N" word under the First Amendment but she doesn't say anything about using the word may not have been the best choice at the time, that does NOT appeal to Black Americans. When no other Conservative or Republican leader in the country speaks out against incidents like Dr. Laura using the "N' word the silence is deafening to Black Americans.
JazzyTallGuy, you can't HONESTLY think for one second that Republicans play the race-card anywhere near as often as Democrats do. Dems even will throw it down agaisnt their own when the stakes are high enough-- like in the 2008 Democrat primary. Then you have avowed racists like Ms. Sanchez telling her Spanish-language audience that "The Vietnamese and the Republicans are trying to steal my seat".
 
Old 11-11-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default For good reason; not just people of color though

Let's face it. The Republican party is a party comprised of racially-insensitive people. The most racially-insensitive people in this country flock to the Republican party. Those who don't like black people simply because of their skin color, find a home in the Republican party. Those who favor the ideology of the Klan have more in common with the ideology of the Republican party than they do not. Segregationalist find a home in the Republican party. Those who look at Mexican immigrants who are trying to make a better life for themselves and their kids, as intruders, find a home in the Republican party. Those who routinely discriminate against blacks, mexicans, asians, indians, and other non-white peoples find a home in the Republican party. Those who believe that racism no longer exists to the detriment of black people, while they continue to practice such discrimination, find a home in the Republican party. Those who believe that they only people on welfare are blacks and mexicans, find a home in the Republican party. Those who believe that blacks and mexicans are inherently lazy and intellectually inferior find a home in the Republican party. Bigots prefer the Republican party.

I would say that it's not just people of color who are turned off by such a party, but so is anyone who is decent, compassionate, not bigoted, self-assured, inclusive, and has high moral standards.
 
Old 11-11-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Let's face it. The Republican party is a party comprised of racially-insensitive people. The most racially-insensitive people in this country flock to the Republican party.

Nope, the Democratic party is filled with race-baiters who cynically try to generate racial strife for their political benefit.

Look how hard Obama plays the race card on immigration. He's hardly the post-racial uniter he held himself out to be. He explicitly tried to cause racial tension over immigration to win the Latino vote during the last election. Pathetic.
 
Old 11-11-2010, 03:26 PM
 
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Well, latinos voted more for Dems in Cali, so of course Dems are going to use that to segregate and divide American citizens into groups. Dems do not see humans. They see race.
Right. Dems can't see a person. They only see a potential bought vote.
 
Old 11-11-2010, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Those who favor the ideology of the Klan have more in common with the ideology of the Republican party than they do not.
Strange how the only member of US Congress that was a clan member was a Democrat. Robert Byrd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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