Republican Agenda Not Popular (generation, companies, dollar, education)

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by odanny

If the military industrial complex did not absorb 660 billion dollars of the budget, we could save more people instead of killing more people.


But thats not profitable.

I guess deflection to another topic is the only defense ?
How do you turn $1 billion into $20 billion with no increase in debt ?

The bill said $1 billion and it has now increased 10-20 fold from the CBO.
Do we just go on BAU and toss that extra spending on the debt pile ?

[texdav]

Originally Posted by odanny

I think we both know the "reform" was pretty toothless, and no government option available means healthcare remains above the level of affordability for millions.

Thats exactly what the Tea Party argued in favor of, the irony is it includes many of these people in that group finding healthcare unaffordable

Thoe millions will be put into medicaid with no option. Then the states will get help for three years thern have to fact huge increases i their medicaid fundig. That is why Nelson of nebraska got the exemption for his states for his vote.So they will be getting a governamnt plan but its not optional as they can not choose basically.The states will bear teh burden as Democrats knew they could affors it so passed on the cost to states.Of course since medicaid does not pay has much as private insurnace then some of the cost will be futrther passed on to private insurance as it is now by hospitals and other providers drivig their cost up.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by odanny

If the military industrial complex did not absorb 660 billion dollars of the budget, we could save more people instead of killing more people.

But thats not profitable.

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

I guess deflection to another topic is the only defense ?
How do you turn $1 billion into $20 billion with no increase in debt ?

The bill said $1 billion and it has now increased 10-20 fold from the CBO.
Do we just go on BAU and toss that extra spending on the debt pile ?

let alone one has nothing to do with the other. When the left has to change the topic to military, you know they are lost..

[odanny]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

I guess deflection to another topic is the only defense ?
How do you turn $1 billion into $20 billion with no increase in debt ?

The bill said $1 billion and it has now increased 10-20 fold from the CBO.
Do we just go on BAU and toss that extra spending on the debt pile ?

Deflection to another topic?

You asked a question, I provided an answer.

Because you dont like it does not make it deflection.


Everything increases in cost. See: Iraq.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by odanny

Deflection to another topic?

You asked a question, I provided an answer.

Because you dont like it does not make it deflection.

Everything increases in cost. See: Iraq.

Your answer was not only a deflection of the topic, but clearly showed how you dont have a clue. Cutting the military budget $20B does not create a $20B surplus for medical startup costs. Doing so would cut the deficits by $20B.. If you respend this money on healthcare costs then that $20B is now contributing to the national debt..

[odanny]

Originally Posted by texdav

Thoe millions will be put into medicaid with no option. Then the states will get help for three years thern have to fact huge increases i their medicaid fundig. That is why Nelson of nebraska got the exemption for his states for his vote.So they will be getting a governamnt plan but its not optional as they can not choose basically.The states will bear teh burden as Democrats knew they could affors it so passed on the cost to states.Of course since medicaid does not pay has much as private insurnace then some of the cost will be futrther passed on to private insurance as it is now by hospitals and other providers drivig their cost up.

The "costs" associated with "private insurance" are PROFIT, they don't HAVE "costs": because they don't PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE

[odanny]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Your answer was not only a deflection of the topic, but clearly showed how you dont have a clue. Cutting the military budget $20B does not create a $20B surplus for medical startup costs. Doing so would cut the deficits by $20B.. If you respend this money on healthcare costs then that $20B is now contributing to the national debt..

No need to use the head smacker emoticon, there are plenty ways to improve the healthcare bill that don't contribute to cutting a penny from the defense budget: If costs INCREASE that is.

But if cost DECREASE, then you have a SAVINGS over 10 years.

Of course, we havent even had this reform for a year yet and the clamor from those working on behalf of private insurance providers is deafening.

Don't go after healthcare reform, go after privatized, unaffordable healthcare

[texdav]

Basically the last national election showed that the republican agenda was niot popualar. This one shows that the democratic agenda was not so popular. That shows that sate agendas verus actual actio change minds when they don;t wotk and the resuklts are not to the voters liking really.Of course mnay will not like the cuts coming;its liie the credit card bill coming at the end of month that is higher than income.

[Boxcar Overkill]

The last two elections showed that people are tired of irresponsible big-spending governments. Tea parties are a reaction to both Bush and Obama.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Keep ignoring the fact that the CBO projected costs will go UP for EVERYONE.. not down..

You can always tell who read the reports, and who listed to the bs coming from Obama... Those educated on facts wouldnt make such ridiculous statements about costs going down because clearly they arent. Healthcare related costs went up between 8-13% this year...

But wait, thats right, you are on government insurance anyways, so you dont know these things.. nor does it matter to you..

The health bill slows the growth of health care costs, without the bill it would increase more. The bill is a good start. Later down the road we can actually get a public option that will help slow the costs even more so.