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Old 11-09-2010, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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I prefer to call him a communist/marxist Black muslim illegal alien Kenyan.

You can call him what you like, it doesn't mean he is what you call him.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:20 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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"Took part in", LOL! He lived there, with his mother and step-father, for four years, from ages 6-10. That hardly means he "took part in" Indonesian culture.
An Indonesian step-father, whose name he took. And you think he didn't take part in Indonesian culture? How odd.

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I believe the school he went to was a religious school. It would not be unusual here in the US for a religious school to ask one's religion. In fact, my kids went to religious colleges and they were asked their religious preferences.
Exactly. Obama's religion is noted as Islam.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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An Indonesian step-father, whose name he took. And you think he didn't take part in Indonesian culture? How odd.

Exactly. Obama's religion is noted as Islam.
"Whose name he took"? He was SIX YEARS OLD at the time he "took" this name. His mother and step-father made that decision for him. It still doesn't mean he immersed himself into the Indonesian culture.

People can change religions. I know many who have.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:31 PM
 
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Interesting then that an Indonesian school record would list a student's religion. Apparently, in that culture, of which Obama took part in, it's important.
I have Indonesian family and they all have a religion written down on their papers but most of them don't actually believe in the same thing as what's written down. For example my brother is written down as a Christian but they didn't even ask him what he believed. They just assumed he's Christian cause he's a white man. My sister-in-law is written down as a Buddhist but her beliefs are much closer to Islam.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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"Took part in", LOL! He lived there, with his mother and step-father, for four years, from ages 6-10. That hardly means he "took part in" Indonesian culture. I believe the school he went to was a religious school. It would not be unusual here in the US for a religious school to ask one's religion. In fact, my kids went to religious colleges and they were asked their religious preferences.

Sure was. A Catholic school, to be exact.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:38 PM
 
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"Whose name he took"? He was SIX YEARS OLD at the time he "took" this name. His mother and step-father made that decision for him. It still doesn't mean he immersed himself into the Indonesian culture.
So, you're trying to convince us that Obama, as a 6-year-old, was not under the cultural influence of his step-father, whose name he took, in his step-father's country. Not likely. Parents are a pretty big influence in a 6-year-old's life. Hence, the Soetoro name as a 6-year-old.

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People can change religions. I know many who have.
Obama has never talked about changing his religion.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:39 PM
 
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Sure was. A Catholic school, to be exact.
A Catholic school? And yet his religion is listed as Islam.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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A Catholic school? And yet his religion is listed as Islam.
But if we're talking about cultural influences, as you mentioned in your very last post, wouldn't a Catholic school give him a Catholic influence?
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:42 PM
 
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There is a difference between living in Indonesia and "immersing" oneself in the Indonesian culture. His mother was an American. That would be a big difference between him and most of the other Indonesians, especially 40 years ago.

Obama says he is a Christian. We don't know every detail of his faith journey. Maybe we should just believe him.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:56 PM
 
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But if we're talking about cultural influences, as you mentioned in your very last post, wouldn't a Catholic school give him a Catholic influence?
A school? Maybe. Clearly there was no religious conversion as his record states his religion as Islam.
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