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That article only shows the percentages of welfare recipients by race. Apparently 37% or parents on welfare are black, while 39% of them are white. And you seem to want to use those percentages to suggest that whites use welfare more than blacks do. That's incorrect, though. And some simple math will demonstrate that. In addition to the percentages above, that article tells us that there are 14million welfare recipients. 37% of 14million is 5,180,000 black welfare recipients, and 39% of 14million is 5,640,000 white welfare recipients. The US Census tells us that the white population of America is just about 224million, and the black population of America is 37 million. 5,180,000 welfare recipients out of a total population of 37 million is 14%, while 5,640,000 welfare recipients out of a total population of 224 million is 2.5%.
So, while the statement you make is correct, there are more white welfare recipients than black, the implication you give, that whites use welfare more frequently than blacks, is totally incorrect.
Thanks Bill. I tried to get this point across as well.
You still misunderstand. African Americans are DECENDENTS, of Africans, who were slaves in this country. And I've never heard of African Americans putting down Africans, who are recent immigrants. That must be just your own perception.
You make African immigrants, sound like a superior species, to African Americans. They're not. I applaud their success. HOWEVER, they haven't had to deal with all the disadvantages of African Americans, who have been (and still are), oppressed in America, for centuries. It's obvious from your statements, that you have nothing but disrespect, for African Americans, and all we've been through in this country. No matter what your own heritage is, this disrespect comes through, loud and clear!
And you somehow got the notion, that minorities are ALL eligible for freebies. Many of us aren't. So your Native American heritage is a moot point. You've wrongfully convinced yourself, that being a minority in America, means that you get a free ride through life. If you traded places with a minority, you'd find that we are still oppressed, underpaid, disproportionately unemployed, homeless, hungry, etc. Life is no picnic for us, despite what you may think!
rbohm, if African Americans don't have a problem with being called that, then why should you have a problem with it. We think it reflects our African heritage, and it's better than being called colored, Negro, or black.
By the way SourD, ALL African Americans, have had an all too heavy 'does of reality'. That comes from being members of a minority group, that has been oppressed for a gagillian years!
Obama isn't an African American. His father's family were at no point slaves, or brought over from Africa. His father was African.
I'd also like to add the point that "black" Americans call themselves "African-American" because 9 times out of 10 they have no idea where their ancestry comes from on the continent of Africa.
Obama is an American. His ancestry is Kenyan-American.
Additionally, giving reparations to the descendants of slaves makes no sense to me. Nobody alive today was alive when slavery occurred. Everybody alive today could have been born anywhere on the entire globe, by chance you were born where you were. That's totally random. Your body may be genetically related to those who came before you, but your spirit is eternal and could have been born into any body in the world.
The best way the government could give reparations is to fix the education system in this country. Beginning when a child is born until he graduates from high school. Every child is not college material. There should be options for those who have interests and talent in other fields where they can earn a living to sustain themselves and not be dependent on government aid or outlaw/underground/black-market jobs.
There is NO POLITICAL SOLUTION for the problems plaguing Black Americans who do not have an education, and don't have jobs skills and aren't making an effort to improve their lives.
The solution is CULTURAL and the solution is rooted in the ancestors of Black Americans that faced more obstacles in terms of blatant racism, discrimination and outright violence than what present day Black Americans faced.
The ancestors of Black Americans KNEW in order to reach their goals they were going have to work hard, be tougher, and be mentally stronger than the people that wanted them to fail to justify their racist beliefs. It's too bad that many Black Americans have either never learned this history or choose not to follow this path.
well, there may not be a political "solution" but there certainly can be a better environment. The idea that blacks are the victim is a self-fulfilling prophesy. Somehow we need to change that attitude, which will help change the dynamics of our society. People tend to treat you how you portray yourself. If you are dressed like a **** then society will treat you like one. If you dress and act like a gangsta from Compton then you will get treated differently than Oprah or Condi Rice.
You still misunderstand. African Americans are DECENDENTS, of Africans, who were slaves in this country. And I've never heard of African Americans putting down Africans, who are recent immigrants. That must be just your own perception.
You make African immigrants, sound like a superior species, to African Americans. They're not. I applaud their success. HOWEVER, they haven't had to deal with all the disadvantages of African Americans, who have been (and still are), oppressed in America, for centuries.
It's obvious from your statements, that you have nothing but disrespect, for African Americans, and all we've been through in this country. No matter what your heritage is, this disrespect comes through, loud and clear!
And you somehow got the notion, that minorities are ALL eligible for freebies. Many of us aren't. So your Native American heritage is a moot point. You've wrongfully
convinced yourself, that being a minority in America, means that you get a free ride through life. If you traded places with a minority, you'd find that we are still oppressed, underpaid, disproportionately unemployed, homeless, hungry, etc. Life is no picnic for us, despite what you may think!
rbohm, if African Americans don't have a problem with being called that, then why should you have a problem with it. We think it reflects our African heritage, and it's being than being called colored, Negro, or black.
By the way SourD, ALL African Americans, have had an all too heavy 'does of reality'. That comes from being members of a minority group, that has been oppressed for a gagillian years!
I'm sorry but you are nothing more than a crybaby, faux victim. You have no excuses for not reaching your potential here in America. Your whinny "oppression" talk is just an excuse for your own failures, now you want someone to pay you for your own failures. Typical Democrat thought process.
it's unfortunate that another thread exists to divide us. Although I am quite sure racism still exists, threads like this only seem to point out the differences that exist between us instead of celebrating how much we are alike.
While some people are talking reparations to African Americans, too many are ignoring the fact that this administration is on the verge of legalizing millions of undereducated illegal aliens into our country that will only exacerbate the problems of ALL that are on welfare and undereducated. The backlash of opening the flood gates to illegals will make competion much tougher for those unfortunate enough to not have a college education, black , white or whatever. There aren't enough jobs now that pay a living wage. Wait until the amnesty. JMHO
very well said, i repped you on this one. and you are right, white people have put down other races in the past. but we have to learn to move on and stop holding onto the past. otherwise we will never make the leap to the future.
from what i understand it is only 10% indian blood and you can be recognized as indian, at least at the federal government level.
as for me, i recognize that while some of my ancestors were in fact indian, i dont claim to be indian as it is quite diluted with the blood of other ancestors.
I did not know that. For us, the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe, we only recognize persons that are 1/4 or more Mohawk with tribal identity. There are certain benefits available to registered members IF they live on the reservation but these benefits are the direct result of a successful NDN run casino operation rather than federal handouts.
Staying on topic, the tribes do not ask for or want money from the government for past abuses by the white man. We have a strong tribal identity and as we prosper through various business enterprises we buy what is most important to us. We buy our land back. I hang with the Yavapai Apache now and they plow every dime they make into buying back vast tracts of the surrounding desert.
I think it is wrong to give a bucket of money to African Americans because of slavery 200 years ago. Give them a hand up with social programs, not a hand out. JMHO
it's unfortunate that another thread exists to divide us. Although I am quite sure racism still exists, threads like this only seem to point out the differences that exist between us instead of celebrating how much we are alike.
While some people are talking reparations to African Americans, too many are ignoring the fact that this administration is on the verge of legalizing millions of undereducated illegal aliens into our country that will only exacerbate the problems of ALL that are on welfare and undereducated. The backlash of opening the flood gates to illegals will make competion much tougher for those unfortunate enough to not have a college education, black , white or whatever. There aren't enough jobs now that pay a living wage. Wait until the amnesty. JMHO
I think we do need to discuss this stuff. I'm not sure why people keep bringing it up, but it is obvious that it needs to be addressed. I think people in the US are much too sensitive these days. What happened to freedom of speech? Apparently you can't really say anything controversial w/o everyone jumping on you for racism or homophobia, etc. We need to allow people to speak their mind. let's judge people's words, and not attack the person.
But to answer your question, OP, that would be a huge and resounding "NO"
Do you think white people should get reparations for the discriminatory act of affirmative action?
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