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View Poll Results: What are your views on blacks having their own media?
There's nothing wrong with it 58 33.53%
It's racist 109 63.01%
I don't know 6 3.47%
Voters: 173. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-24-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: America
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and i don't know where you're located, but where i'm from, even some of the lowliest people out of the gutter still put a value on education. you even have drug dealers telling kids to stay in school lol

making fun of kids for taking education seriously is something that teenagers do. never in my life have i ever heard a black adult (regardless of their questionable background) downplay education. and i live in the south; so go figure.
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Old 11-24-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Well if whites had their own media org it sure as hell would be considered racist. Don't see why this is any different.
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Old 11-24-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: America
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Well if whites had their own media org it sure as hell would be considered racist. Don't see why this is any different.
because you see white people all the time on every major channel. simple.

that's the difference. there's never been a need for white people to have their own channel, but there was a reason for blacks to have their own
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Old 11-26-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
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There's no such thing as "reverse racism". Racism is racism.
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Well if whites had their own media org it sure as hell would be considered racist. Don't see why this is any different.
Not really. When something is all white it's just normal. They only need to use a racial qualifier when it's another race.

Take Friends for example. They were not listed as an all-white cast of male and female friends living in the city. Nor were the women on sex in the city listed as all white women trying to find love, etc BUT Living Single & Girlfriends were both described as "black" shows even though it was basically the same concept. Same as Family Matters, it was about an African-American family but Full House was about a widowed father raising his three girls with the help of his brother-in-law and best friend.

I don't think I've ever seen anything that was referred to as "all white" or "white cast" or "white family"...they use other adjectives (Roseanne was a low-income family, Married with Children was a dysfunctional family) and I assume that's because white is the norm.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: STL
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Not really. When something is all white it's just normal. They only need to use a racial qualifier when it's another race.

Take Friends for example. They were not listed as an all-white cast of male and female friends living in the city. Nor were the women on sex in the city listed as all white women trying to find love, etc BUT Living Single & Girlfriends were both described as "black" shows even though it was basically the same concept. Same as Family Matters, it was about an African-American family but Full House was about a widowed father raising his three girls with the help of his brother-in-law and best friend.

I don't think I've ever seen anything that was referred to as "all white" or "white cast" or "white family"...they use other adjectives (Roseanne was a low-income family, Married with Children was a dysfunctional family) and I assume that's because white is the norm.
I agree with your points and for the most part, I agree with AlGreen's points. Keep in mind though, that white is the norm because over two-thirds of the US population is white. Because of this, it is no surprise that you see mainly white people on TV in a white dominated country.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I agree with your points and for the most part, I agree with AlGreen's points. Keep in mind though, that white is the norm because over two-thirds of the US population is white. Because of this, it is no surprise that you see mainly white people on TV in a white dominated country.
I have no problem with this. The problem I have is when whites object to blacks having media directed at them (but open to anyone) to compensate for this obvious gap. There SHOULD be more whites on American media than any other group; but whites should never complain because there are media aimed specifically at blacks. If these people had it their way, there would be no blacks on television or movies, no magazines featuring blacks and, in many cases, no blacks in American history books. Funny thing is, that is how it was for many, many years, and these whites, of course, thought everything was the way it should be.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Well if whites had their own media org it sure as hell would be considered racist. Don't see why this is any different.
Whites DO have their own media. ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, etc........
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Whites DO have their own media. ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, etc........
This argument again? Please. None of these networks are aimed specifically at whites, they do not offer programming intended to be viewed by mostly whites, aside from the fact that whites are the majority. BET offers programming specifically geared toward blacks. That is what we are saying here, if there was a WET, we'd have a major backlash from the black community.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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This argument again? Please. None of these networks are aimed specifically at whites, they do not offer programming intended to be viewed by mostly whites, aside from the fact that whites are the majority. BET offers programming specifically geared toward blacks. That is what we are saying here, if there was a WET, we'd have a major backlash from the black community.
That's is actually the problem. "mainstream media" see itself as inclusive to everyone. In reality, typically they can't create content that mirrors the larger culture. There is limited ethnic diversity on TV. Forget about the numbers of african-americans on TV. It is rare to see someone Latino, or Asian or Indian is on the WB or USA as a regular part of the cast in an ensemble show.

Let's look at the press coverage for NBC's Undercovers. 90% of it focused on the fact that the stars of the show were black. After reading the articles, I don't even know if it was a good show and barely anything about the plot. It could have easily been framed as a modern "Hart to Hart," but people were too busy focusing on the heritage of the cast.

How on earth did the "Friends" cast navigate NYC without ethnic people?

It would be A-OK to have a "WET" if people fully admitted mainstream media did not really represent the US very well. The reason we need channels like BET and Univision is because many voices aren't seen on network TV.

Personally, I do not watch many of the popular shows on Network TV, and watch a lot more USA. Coincidentally, USA shows seem to have a lot more diversity than the typical NBA/ABC/CBS show.
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