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are you saying women should give up sex entirely because they might get pregnant even if they use birth control? birth control does fail.
women get raped, women get molested. what about these women? should they be sent to away somewhere, forced to have a baby by a rapist or their own male relative?
yes woman have the choice to pull their panties down, yes woman have a choice to use birth control yes woman have a choice to keep their hormones in check yes woman can proudly kill another human.....
It takes two to tango. If a woman is so in charge of her body to kill another human she should be in charge enough to leave her panties on
You are a one trick pony. Anything else you would like to tell people to do? How about what they should eat? What kind of job they should have?
Let us just state, that if the man would just keep it in his pants until HE is sure she is either on Birth Control or HE CAN USE A CONDOM he could be certain she won't be getting pregnant on his dime.
WOW, what an idea. The man is ALSO responsible? 100% he is just as responsible for the abortion situation. Be careful where you stick that thing.
are you saying women should give up sex entirely because they might get pregnant even if they use birth control? birth control does fail.
women get raped, women get molested. what about these women? should they be sent to away somewhere, forced to have a baby by a rapist or their own male relative?
no im saying shoudl a woman choose to have sex an gets pregant she did not on her own make that baby. Yet she has the abilty to kill it affecting three lives hers , the baby and the father.
when a woman can makes a baby without a man then she can kill it
Just to illustrate SOME of the things pregnant women go through:
The following are some of the complaints that may occur during and/or after pregnancy due to the many changes which pregnancy causes in a woman's body:
* Anemia
* Back pain. A particularly common complaint in the third trimester when the patient's center of gravity has shifted.
* Carpal tunnel syndrome in between an estimated 21% to 62% of cases, possibly due to edema.[82]
* Constipation. A complaint that is caused by decreased bowel mobility secondary to elevated progesterone (normal in pregnancy), which can lead to greater absorption of water.
* Braxton Hicks contractions. Occasional, irregular, and often painless contractions that occur several times per day.
* Edema (swelling). Common complaint in advancing pregnancy. Caused by compression of the inferior vena cava (IVC) and pelvic veins by the uterus leads to increased hydrostatic pressure in lower extremities.
* Regurgitation, heartburn, and nausea. Common complaints that may be caused by Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease (GERD); this is determined by relaxation of the lower esophageal sphincter (LES) and increased transit time in the stomach (normal in pregnancy), as well as by increased intraabdominal pressure, caused by the enlarging uterus.
* Haemorrhoids. Complaint that is often noted in advancing pregnancy. Caused by increased venous stasis and IVC compression leading to congestion in venous system, along with increased abdominal pressure secondary to the pregnant space-occupying uterus and constipation.
* Pelvic girdle pain. PGP disorder is complex and multi-factorial and likely to be represented by a series of sub-groups with different underlying pain drivers from peripheral or central nervous system,[83] altered laxity/stiffness of muscles,[84] laxity to injury of tendinous/ligamentous structures[85] to ‘mal-adaptive’ body mechanics.[86] Musculo-Skeletal Mechanics involved in gait and weightbearing activities can be mild to grossly impaired. PGP can begin peri or postpartum. There is pain, instability or dysfunction in the symphysis pubis and/or sacroiliac joints.
* Postpartum depression
* Postpartum psychosis
* Round Ligament Pain. Pain experienced when the ligaments positioned under the uterus stretch and expand to support the woman's growing uterus
* Thromboembolic disorders. The leading cause of death in pregnant women in the USA.[87]
* Increased urinary frequency. A common complaint referred by the gravida, caused by increased intravascular volume, elevated GFR (glomerular filtration rate), and compression of the bladder by the expanding uterus.
* Urinary tract infection
* Varicose veins. Common complaint caused by relaxation of the venous smooth muscle and increased intravascular pressure.
* PUPPP skin disease that develop around the 32nd week. (Pruritic Urticarial Papules and Plaques of Pregnancy), red plaques, papules, itchiness around the belly button that spread all over the body except for the inside of hands and face.
there's also gestational diabetes, hypertension, permanent urinary incontinence, postpartum depression, and deep vein thrombosis. There's also the physical and emotional risks a pregnant women takes when she stops taking prescribed medications for the health of the fetus. Pregnant women who do so can experience anxiety, depression, pain, and a reemergence of symptoms formally held in check w/ the drugs.
wait, I noticed that Wikipedia list forgot one major complication of pregnancy: DEATH. maternal death hasn't been eradicated, least I checked. even in this country, women still die during pregnancy or post.
^^this is what you want to force a woman through wjtwet. many women experience several of these things throughout most of their pregnancy. most of these things you'll never experience because you're not even a woman.
Last edited by eevee; 12-03-2010 at 04:03 PM..
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[quote=Taboo2;16873579]You are a one trick pony. Anything else you would like to tell people to do? How about what they should eat? What kind of job they should have?
Let us just state, that if the man would just keep it in his pants until HE is sure she is either on Birth Control or HE CAN USE A CONDOM he could be certain she won't be getting pregnant on his dime.
WOW, what an idea. The man is ALSO responsible? 100% he is just as responsible for the abortion situation. Be careful where you stick that thing.[/quote/]
If a woman would keep her panties on until she wants a baby or can use proper method not to get pregnant . for if she gets pregnant its not her fault its not his fault its their fault. Yet only she can legally murder anothe rhuman and she can do so with a father who could very easily want that baby
Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:
stretch marks [SIZE=-1](worse in younger women)[/SIZE]
loose skin
permanent weight gain or redistribution
abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
pelvic floor disorder [SIZE=-1](occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)[/SIZE]
changes to breasts
varicose veins
scarring from episiotomy or c-section
other permanent aesthetic changes to the body [SIZE=-1](all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)[/SIZE]
increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
loss of dental and bone calcium [SIZE=-1](cavities and osteoporosis) [/SIZE]
Pregnancy is MUCH more than an "incovenience".
These are the things men never even think about when they see a pregnant woman.
Yes, men can stand on the side-lines and say carrying a pregnancy is no big deal.........because it can never happen to them.
No one should ever be forced to subject their body to PERMANENT DAMAGE against their will.
Yep, and they get to choose IF they want a child by you.
In fact, they can choose to deny you visitation, and still have you pay support for it.
So, really, it's a lot better if they just abort, rather than put you through all that.
Very true.
Are a male?
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Originally Posted by wjtwet
woman choose who they sleep with .
You just bring it back to that. You did not even respond to the other part of my post. Why not admit it is the mans problem too?
If he is oh so holy and against abortion, why doesn't HE watch who he sleeps with when he KNOWS a woman can get an abortion legally?
A woman can choose who they sleep with like they can chose to have an abortion. A man cant stop a woman from doing it so he can watch who he sleeps with.
But as with you, as always....womans fault. Men are holy and should control the woman.
no im saying shoudl a woman choose to have sex an gets pregant she did not on her own make that baby. Yet she has the abilty to kill it affecting three lives hers , the baby and the father.
when a woman can makes a baby without a man then she can kill it
fully possible technically. once a man donates his sperm, he has no say in the outcome. fully possible a woman can impregnate herself w/ donated sperm but abort the baby later on. again, no man can stop a woman from doing so.
and let's serious here: the risk to the woman is FAR GREATER than that of the man. a woman puts in more energy, resources, and tears into carrying, birthing, and caring for a child. child bearing is not equal and the woman will always have more clout in this matter.
sleep w/ someone w/ you own anti abortion/anti choice views so if she gets pregnant, she won't abort (though I wouldn't doubt there are women out there who considered themselves "pro life" yet circumstances occurred when they had to abort the pregnancy. be prepared for that.)
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