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Old 11-14-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I bet that reasoning impressed the guy drafting you! Back in the days of WW2, or Vietnam. Or your teachers in High School. Can't make me do anything I don't want to do, I got not duties, just rights!


You treat those that can pay, or close your doors to all.

You don't understand how a business keeps the doors open for business, do you.

Let me guess, your employed.
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Old 11-14-2010, 06:01 PM
 
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You treat those that can pay, or close your doors to all.

You don't understand how a business keeps the doors open for business, do you.

Let me guess, your employed.
Most of those who argue with you re: healthcare have no concept of what it takes to operate a medical facility, or the years it takes for a doctor to finish schooling and establish a practice. Most think that physicians should just provide for everyone's needs without regards to overhead,.....as long as it is someone else doing the free thingy.
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Old 11-14-2010, 06:11 PM
 
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let's start with where the problem started. The congress, courts and presidents. Cut their pay, pensions and benefits first as a gesture. Cut by 25% on the present employees as well as the retired and their families.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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It would help enormously to have fewer prescriptions written, not by more unqualified people.

It's absurd the pill-popping that is done - someone might need a prescription or two but most of the elderly don't need anywhere close to what they're swallowing by the handfuls.

They don't feel like eating right, so the doc writes a prescription for a drug that will harm their liver but lower their cholesterol, they get stool hardeners, stool softeners - but again proper diet would take care of that. They take sleeping pills, wake up pills. Pain killers that don't help but make them foggy.

Maybe they don't need so many doctors and prescriptions but weight loss and exercise - things you can do on your own.
Yep, that will work.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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my question is why did the democrats push for a medicare cut. Medicare is not 100% to begin with, why screw the old people. why not cut medicaid
Medicare must be cut to balance the budget. No choice. Man up, take your part in cuts, and do the right thing for our country.

BTW, Medicaid pays for nursing home care once a persons assets are all used up.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:22 PM
 
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What exactly are the "facts" we are supposed to be getting from your links? It says right there that cuts are going to be made..
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Even the Republican "Pledge to America" contained no specifics plan that would actually balance the budget. As many journalist pointed out, cutting "pork barrel" spending and other discretionary projects gets the country nowhere near a balanced budget. Really balancing the budget would require either raising tax rates or cutting the politically sacred programs of Social Security and Medicare.
Republicans signal an increasing willingness to cut Social Security and Medicare - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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it sure looks like you are calling for cuts to be made and rationing of care.. The exact same thing you said wouldnt take place..

I also note how you have no problem freely giving away hundreds of thousands in collecte credits.. as if these things dont have costs associated with them...
I have always favoured rationing. Medical care should dispensed wisely where it will do the most good and not for merely keeping dead people alive.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Spoken by someone who doesn't know diddly-squat about medicare reimbursement. There are many doctors who already will not accept new medicare patients because of such low reimbursement rates.

Your statement about medical schools and squeezing doctors more is paramount to nationalizing healthcare, so why not just go ahead and say what you mean.
When we don't have enough nurses, we get them from the Philippines. They work just as well as the American variety do. We can do the same with docs. As for nationalization, I have always been for that. Should have been done decades ago.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Most of those who argue with you re: healthcare have no concept of what it takes to operate a medical facility, or the years it takes for a doctor to finish schooling and establish a practice. Most think that physicians should just provide for everyone's needs without regards to overhead,.....as long as it is someone else doing the free thingy.
They should make a reasonable profit based upon their skills, schooling and experience just like any other worker. Most doctors make well into 6 figures and even 7 figures. I don't have any gripes with them making more than plumbers make but they should not be greedy either.
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